"Sport" gear for Automatics

Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by Nikitaman369, Nov 21, 2015.

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Is this doable?

Poll closed Dec 21, 2015.
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  1. Nikitaman369

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    It would be pretty nice if there would be a "Sport" gear in the Automatic transmissions, so it won't shift down when you let go of the gas like in the new Audis.
     
  2. Firepower

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    You mean like a clutch ?
     
  3. Nikitaman369

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    Something like this
     

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  4. Firepower

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    If you're looking for a thing to get out of gear, just use the clutch (Shift), and release to get back in gear.
     
  5. Nikitaman369

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    No you don't get me.
    1. Theres no clutch in an Automatic transmission.
    2. It's a more advanced gear mode to "Drive", which you can use to accelerate faster.
    It's like an Kickdown, but permanently. (as long as you are in "Sport")
    And the engine revs higher.
     
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  6. Firepower

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    Oh, yeah I didn't get it the fist time.
    Unless you modify the car's jbeam, I don't think you can get that kind of gear on automatic gearboxes yet.
     
  7. Nikitaman369

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    I hope it will be implemented in future versions of the game :/ . Tanks for your help.
     
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  8. Firepower

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    You can suggest it under "Ideas and Suggestions" if you want ;)
     
  9. Quotex

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    Are you sure?

    That's a hondamatic transmission, it has a clutch for each gear, and if one burns out, you'll notice it ;)

    I know what you're talking about though.

    A "sport" mode for the automatic basically allows it to have more agressive shift down points, and it will stay in gear for longer before shifting. This of course going of the fuel economy and smoothness of the transmission.

    I'm pretty sure a mod for this could be made, and might be implemented for certain vehicles (mostly modern automatics) but atm i don't really see any certain vehicles a sport-mode automatic would fit too.
     
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  10. Firepower

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    You couldn't shift if you had no clutch anyway, so there are clutches on an automatic gearbox, like Quotex showed, but you can't see them.
    So it's just different gear ratios right ?
     
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  11. Quotex

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    Not different gear ratios, the Sport mode usually sets it so that the Gearbox switches gears later, closer to the peak power/torque band.

    Gear ratios can only be changed if you take the entire transmission apart, since it's the gears in the gearbox that set the ratios, and combined with the differential that will decided how fast a car will go in a certain gear at a certain RPM, tires and drag aside.
     
  12. SixSixSevenSeven

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    @Firepower When you have no idea what you are talking about, its best to simply not advise on the subject as you are contributing little here.

    Automatic transmissions have multiple clutches internally, just no clutch pedal. Nor is anything related to a clutch even being suggested.
    Nikitaman is simply suggesting the car has a sport mode, common to many automatic vehicles. The car will shift from a transmission tuning (as yes most these days are electronically tuned) optimised for fuel economy to one for performance.

    Yes many automatics *do* allow manual shifting and still have no clutch pedal
    No it is not different gear ratios, its a different group of settings for the transmission to shift between the existing ratios.
     
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  13. CTJacob

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    I think he means like a selectshift mode like the automatic RSX has.

    Like this?
     
  14. Quotex

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    That's kind of like the DCTs in the Sunbursts, you can switch between the automatic, or use the paddle shifters instead of having one of those + - things.
     
  15. Firepower

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    - Quotex posted an example, and I thought he was using a manual car in automatic in the game.
    - I'm trying to help, is that a bad thing ? Aren't forums existing especially for that purpose ?
     
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  16. Quotex

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    Right now in-game automatic gearboxes only have a few minimal settings.

    There's High, and Low. each with their own set shift up-and-down points for all gears.

    I'm hoping that later, we'll have a way to set the hi-lo shift points for each gear. As well as setting how much throttle would be high and how much would be low.


    The current automatic system doesn't always work well on low powered cars, as they often stick into the higher gear instead of shifting back down. Because you're just above the highdown shift point. meaning you have to slow down first, then go full throttle to shift back.
     
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  17. SixSixSevenSeven

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    there's trying to help, and there's trying to help on a subject you don't understand which usually just confuses further and becomes unintentionally malicious.

    as far as forums go. It's best to only offer assistance when you definitely can. Rambling about clutches when the discussion is for a sport mode on an automatic transmission is not helping
     
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  18. Firepower

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    I answered his question, there isn't a "Sport" gear in the game yet. After we talked about clutches. I helped, and then we discussed.
     
  19. Spaceballs the Username

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    A lot of modern automatics have what is called "manumatic" where you can shift on your own with an automatic gearbox. There are often 2 ways this is implemented:

    1. Sport Mode: Allow driver to shift up and down and the ECU will shift accordingly if the selected gear can be switched to. The ECU will automatically shift up or down if RPMs get too high/low
    2. Limit Mode: The driver sets a maximum gear that the car is allowed to be in. The ECU will still shift down automatically if more power is required. e.g. set the shifter to be in 3rd gear, and the car will only use 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear, but it will not shift into 4th.

    Both of these are relatively new and shouldn't be on the older cars of BeamNG. I think only the Sunburst and the SBR would be new enough to have this technology.
     
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  20. speednsnake

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    He isn't asking for an auto stick, he's asking for a more sport oriented auto that revs closer to the redline before shifting and keeps the car in the powerband as opposed to up-shifting for economy. He said he wants it to be like a permanent kickdown, there isn't any other way to interpret that if you know what a kickdown is.

    The easy/realistic way for them to do this would be to give the "real automatic" mode a "drive" and "overdrive". The drive gear in game now is more like an overdrive, so they would just have to tune the shift points and lock you out of the top gear for a "drive" setting. To get an even better option they could make race transmissions (like the drag one for the moonhawk) shift just before the rev limiter and not allow you to select "overdrive".
     
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