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The overheating is real.

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by nathan12276, Nov 11, 2014.

  1. nathan12276

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    I have a p.o.s laptop that runs this at 40 fps and sits at 103 degrees Centigrade. im scared this is going to ruin it and if i put it the wrong way it turns off... how do i stop it from overheating? is there any way?
    I completely cleaned out the insides and there is not a spec of dust, the retarded fan in this laptop only goes up to 80% usage which is totally F***ing stupid. I bought a cooling pad and it only seemed to make things worse. im literally ready to take my massive fan in my room, put it in a box and set my laptop on top.
    (imported from here)
     
  2. pulley999

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    Have you tried turning your cooling pad the other way round? You could be pushing air in the out vents or vice versa.

    Another solution would be to replace all of the thermal compound in the laptop's cooling arrangement with something of higher quality and better conductivity.

    A chip (audio, video, memory controller, etc.) that needs a heatsink may not have one. Sometime's it's possible to jury rig one out of a penny, I've seen people do it for their Raspberry Pis before. The best way to go about finding this out would be some sort of heat gun but you could also run open case and (carefully) feel some of the unsinked chips on the board to see if they are getting hot.

    With that said, most laptop hardware is built to operate at more extreme temperatures than desktop equivalents, but the bit about shutting off is worrisome.
     
  3. nathan12276

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    It hits about 105 degrees then shuts off im guessing its just a safety feature, the pad only blows in the bottom is a legit cushion, i don't know what a heat sink is, but im thinking of changing it to a better or at least new fan because the one in it, well i can barely feel any air coming out. im not one with a heat gun and im really clumsy so i would not trust myself with opening it. thanks for the help.
     
  4. Goosah

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    Put it on an icepack? lol Or empty out the deep freeze and stick to driving Mt Shell.
     
  5. Aboroath

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    My laptop is a fairly high end and dedicated gaming rig and I'm here to tell you BeamNG makes it's fan SCREAM. The heat coming out of this machine will literally heat a room. If your
    machine is really old with components that don't require a lot of cooling or are not designed to run heavy and constant processing this program is going to cause
    heat issues. If weak cooling airflow is an issue after extensive cleaning perhaps your machine just flat out can't handle it as the fan and components are designed
    for general computing tasks?
     
  6. Cwazywazy

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    105 is far too high, even for a laptop. Most laptops should not exceed 90c. (High temps just reduce the lifetime of the chips. When it gets really hot computers will shut off automatically to prevent damage.)

    Now, what you should do is take it apart to the point that you have access to the heatsink and fan setup. (On some laptops like mine you just have to take off the bottom panel which is attached by one screw, but on others you have to completely disassemble them.) Then remove the heatsink and use a paper towel or something and some rubbing alcohol to clean off all the old thermal paste. (Might be really hard as stock factory thermal paste usually isn't that good.) Then when it's all clean add some new thermal paste. (You can just go buy some cheap crap and it'd still probably be a lot better than it is now, or spend like $7 or so for some good paste.)

    If you don't know what you're doing, maybe there's a guide on how to do it for your laptop model on YouTube or something.

    I have high end thermal paste along with copper shims in my laptop. It still gets hot, just not nearly as hot as stock. (Precision M4400. 3GHz Core 2 Duo and a Nvidia FX1700m which has a 50 watt TDP. In a laptop. Battery life is shit unless I lock it in a low Psate.)
     
  7. nathan12276

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    eek, its a year old, and is beastly for the low price i got it for. any idea how to make the fan spin faster?
     
  8. randomshortguy

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    If I use my laptop for BeamNG, it's throttling at 100C in about 2 minutes. Laptops can't get rid of heat, and unless a compact refrigeration device is created I suspect it will stay that way.

    My friend has been stuck with a laptop with an OC'd AMD and he has literally tied two noctuas to the bottom and wired them to a 12v battery pack.

    "Keeps it under 110!" he said

    "110? Holy crap? What about during summer?" i said

    "3 season computer."
     
  9. nathan12276

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    What does a heat sink look like?
     
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    most laptops have a heat sink that looks similar to this:

    nx6110fan.jpg

    (the black plastic fan with the copper coming off of it)
     
  11. Aboroath

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    What are the specs?...make , model etc. I'm by no means a pc tech but general logical process elimination works for awhile.:cool:
     
  12. Cwazywazy

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    Heh. My netbook will heat right up when I'm using it in bed. It's got such a small fan and exhaust vent. If I accidentally block the exhaust it will throttle to the point that Netflix stutters. (At around 90c) My main laptop is a nice workstation laptop, Precision M4400. The GPU in that thing creates a fuckton of heat. FX1700m, a 50w TDP GPU. Under stress testing it'll stay around 85c and that's with my modded cooling. (Sanded down the heatsink, good thermal paste, and copper shims.) CPU stays nice and cool though. IIRC it'll get hotter than that under gaming load. When I'm on battery or just doing normal stuff/light gaming I'll lock it in a lower Pstate. Runs much cooler that way and my battery life is a lot better. (Doesn't switch to Intel graphics or anything like that.)

    What the cooling in it looks like:

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  13. nathan12276

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    (imported from here) im lazy, people always say theres 1 more part, i think its a built in hd 4000 or sumthin
    should i disable the temp sensor?
     
  14. Cwazywazy

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    Not a gaming laptop. Why would you disable the temp sensor? If you even can do that, all it would do is stop it shutting off which would allow the laptop to heat up to the point that it would kill itself.
     
  15. nathan12276

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    Yea my cooling looked allot more ghetto than that when i had it apart.

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    It is beastly for 500$ it runs it it just doesn't run it for long, and i could cover all the holes as long as im not playing any games it stays beneath 90.
     
  16. Aboroath

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    If you have the ability to disable the temp sensor then perhaps you have the ability to see what your fan is doing? If you've opened it up and done all you can
    to clear the airflow paths and the fan is at 100% RPM then the fan may be dying or just can't deal with the load period.:eek:
     
  17. nathan12276

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    it only goes up to 80% and stops
     
  18. Cwazywazy

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    Probably just a bug.

    One: Your laptop is not a gaming laptop. It's probably just some cheap Best Buy thing.
    Two: REPLACE YOUR THERMAL PASTE. It's pretty much the best thing you can do.
    Three: DO. NOT. ATTEMPT TO DISABLE YOUR THERMAL SENSOR. If you manage to do that without ruining your laptop these would happen:
    • The fan would never turn on and the laptop would heat up much more
    • The laptop would not turn off or throttle due to overheating because it wouldn't know that it's overheating
    • The laptop would eventually melt and die or just die

    Just replace your thermal paste man.
     
  19. Dummiesman

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    In short : No you cannot stop it from overheating. It was not meant to game and you are making it beg for mercy when running a game such as BeamNG. No making the fan faster won't solve anything.

    If you want to play games get a gaming PC
     
  20. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Heat sink is a metal block which is bolted down (and joined with thermal paste or thermal tape) to a warm object. The block usually has cooling fins all over it. Warm object heats up the block, fins radiate the heat into the air, hot thing runs cooler.

    Got one on pi. Made little difference to CPU core, but the vreg and USB hub parts are no longer hot enough to avoid touching.
     
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