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This community needs to stop bashing on people's hardware!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Aerotactics, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. Aerotactics

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    OK, so your computer is better than mine, big whoop. That does not give you the right to say my computer is bad, nor does that give you the right to call my computer a piece of shit.

    I've seen this happen several times in the few days I've been here, not just to me, but to others. If you have something helpful to say about someone's hardware, go for it, but if "PoS" and "bad" or "terrible" or things like that are used to make a claim, don't even bother.

    My PC meets the requirements of a high-end gaming PC, and I can play 90% of current games at ultra graphics. I spent ~$300 on my computer base (pre-built), $400 in part upgrades. I'm not a computer expert, but anything that runs games at Ultra graphics are considered "beefy."

    If someone give you their system specs, do not bash on single parts:
    Your CPU is shit
    Your computer isn't that beefy


    Instead, give constructive feedback:
    Your graphics card may have trouble on modern games because it's an old/outdated model.
    BeamNG.Drive is not suited for AMD CPUs because they are unable to process single threads efficiently, but you can still balance your graphics settings and enjoy the game.

    The ONLY time it is justified to have an opinion on a piece of hardware is if you use it yourself. If you don't, keep your opinion to yourself. Say 2 people have an AMD Graphics card 7900 series, they can say "I don't like this card because I use it myself and..." or "This card is amazing, and..."

    A little goes a long way. Think twice about what you say, and don't reply to someone just to say their computer is not as good as yours.

    P.S. Move thread where appropriate.
     
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  2. JackAttak

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    Yep. To add to this: "Don't give people advice on hardware when you know nothing about hardware"
     
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  3. B727ClassicFlyer

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    True, true. If you compare the specs of my laptop in my signature to that of Aerotactic's computer specs, it'll fall behind significantly in terms of performance on higher graphics quality, but that doesn't mean my laptop is a "electronic shitbox", it's more tuned for economical reasons, like sending voicemails to people, sending emails and other stuff.
     
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  4. Aerotactics

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    Exactly. I don't like seeing computers receiving negative opinions instead of constructive feedback. Each person knows their own computer and how it works. If they don't understand why a game isn't working, they're looking for constructive feedback.
     
  5. randomshortguy

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    Every day there is a new thread complaining about horrible performance,

    claiming how they should be getting better framerates
    and that they paid X amount for the PC
    and that X game gets better framerates,
    and it's unjustified,
    etc.

    Then they post their specs, which are genuinely weak and not sufficient for gaming...

    ...and yet they go on and on about how it's ridiculous that they get such a low framerate.

    After a while, the community loses its patience and gentle wording in favour of a blunt and efficient answer to the OP's question: your computer sucks.
    your graphics card sucks, your CPU sucks, ewww a prebuilt, and more. I've seen them all.

    That's (generally) the answer, it's blunt and unkind, but really it's a lot more efficient that creating a huge post using euphemisms and pleasant language to explain;

    "...it seems that your hardware may lack the computational abilities and features sets to properly run the simulation at full speed, any measures you can take to further the speed of your central processing unit would result in a more positive customer experience"

    is a more polite, considerate way of saying the following blunt and inconsiderate statement:

    "yeah no, that's not going to run with THAT cpu. upgrade that junk"

    With that in mind, it's important to not be offended by that bundle of silicon we all call a PC. Your PC isn't sentient (yet), so you needn't say that someone doesn't have the right to insult your PC, or put its abilities in question in a blunt fashion. We really, especially in this time in history, do not need more politically correct, long-winded and obfuscated language in order to convey a simple point. Sometimes the truth is, that an AMD CPU just isn't as good as an Intel CPU, by architecture. I don't want to have to append a huge disclaiming bringing counter points like "yes but it has good value" and "amd motherboards are cheaper" and more, because I would hope you understand your purchase choice. It is not a popularity contest, if an OP asks why the games doesn't run well, people will answer his question, not console him with heart-warming and optimistic criticism.

    THAT SAID;

    Unnecessary malice in dealing with someone's computer is just... not cool. Before I built this computer I'm using now, I had a craptop. It was all I could afford, and it ran the game at around 17FPS. Not fun, and I was told it was an inferior and poor computer. It was exactly what it truly was: a simple budget laptop. We all need to remember what the point of X computer is; a three hundred dollar office PC simply cannot run games very well, as it was not built with that in mind. That goes without saying, that the person replying to the OP of a "low fps" thread must not offend the OP by saying "wow your CPU is positively trash. what were you thinking buying that?". There's explaining why the game doesn't run well, and offering advice to help with the poor performance, and then there's just a firestorm of bashing someone's lackluster specs, which is what @Aerotactics is talking about, which happens too much here.

    tl;dr - we don't need euphemisms and optimistic criticisms in order to sugarcoat the truth, but we do need to be more considerate and constructive in the advice we give.
     
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  6. Zappymouse

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    Protip: If one has to ask if their PC can run XYZ, it most likely won't be able to run XYZ.

    Never seen a bloke with even a half decent computer asking if they can run things properly. It's almost always kids with $1500 prebuilt "gaming" computers with 620+i7 or clueless hacks running Celeron notebooks expecting blistering performance, then getting upset when told no, usually quoting the price paid to feed their hurt ego. Gets exhausting after a while, and I'm usually very, very grumpy.
     
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