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Discussion in 'Terrains, Levels, Maps' started by Tenma Gabriel, Mar 4, 2019.

  1. Tenma Gabriel

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    First and for most: I did not made any of the assets in this map, all of them were converted by NFM from the Xentax forum to assetto corsa. If the author wants i take it down.

    Oh well, ok, This is the C1 Shuto Loop around Tokyo, about 20 ish kilometers of japanese highway.
    This map has also roads leading to the rainbow bridge aswell, as a resting area for Screenshots
    The rain drains can lead to some unstability so pay attention to them.
    Oh yea and custom default license plates, that generates the combination properly

    IT CAN GET VERY LAGGY, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

    Some pics:





    So yea, Credits to:
    @DevilisticJosh For some lot of help on the porting side of the development
    NFM for the original assetto corsa mod, here's the link btw
    https://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=12775
    Downloaded from here:
    https://assettocorsa.club/mods/tracks/shuto-expressway-c1.html

    Current Bugs:
    Watch out merging on the first highway, the off ramp loves to bug out and trap the cars there, so i recomment slowing down to about 60kph (idk how to fix this one tho)
    Some signs are buggy, they will be fixed in the next update
    Some weird shadings in some places
    There is one no texture somewhere, but takes ages to search thru 20ish kms in blender so idk about this one
    The map is still very much playable with these bugs

    DOWNLOAD:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1in_3zwLRxrs1ELM40j74h57Kpe4twm5z
     
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  2. Shotgun Chuck

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    >See thread
    >Click download link

    I'm a simple man.

    By the by, can this work (in theory) with @Gamergull's Traffic Tool?
     
  3. Tenma Gabriel

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    It has no AI... its heavy enough without it
     
  4. Shotgun Chuck

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    Seems you're right. Even with an M.2 SSD, first time loading is a doozy.

    There is some glitchiness on the initial ramp coming from Rainbow Bridge down to C1 which likes to eat wheels and tires if you're in just the wrong place.

    Also, I found your No Material. It's at the Route 5 junction on the inner loop.
     
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  5. Shotgun Chuck

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    I have a consistent crash to desktop when exiting back to main menu from this map. Granted that's with 105 other mods active, so who knows. As with other maps, putting the time to the middle of the night and turning on headlights takes about 10 FPS off instantly, though even with the counter bouncing between 37-40 FPS, it still looked dead smooth to me (in other news, I've completely stopped trusting the in-game FPS counter to tell me anything!)

    Considering that some of the textures (road especially) actually look grainy at night, and that there is quite a bit of texture Z-fighting on road signs, perhaps textures would be a potential target for optimization?

    (Random aside: the Street Tuned 1996 Pessima has to be one of the most bletcherous cars in the entire game to drive - it has no power so acceleration becomes glacial once you hit 5th gear, the brakes lock at a touch causing the car to slew sideways if you're turning at all, and it has no grip despite the suspension apparently being made from concrete.)
     
  6. Tenma Gabriel

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    The constant crash happens to me as well, but idk why and to me it's not only with this map, and the Z fighting was that bug with some signs that I said in the main post, I know what is causing that, but I need some time to fix it cause there are approximately 890 materials in this map
     
  7. Def2004

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    Wangan Midnight Time
     
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  8. DankMemeBunny

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    cool and good
     
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  9. sainther

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    OMG OMG OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH!! iv'e been hoping some would make this mod
     
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  10. DutchyGamer

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    oshid! Thanks for replying, this looks amazing!
     
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  11. Tenma Gabriel

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    you're welcome and thankyou aswell :33
     
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  12. MadLeigh

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    :D Awesome Map... Avg around 80FPS, Haven't found any laggy areas yet,
    Some fences can be clingly so best to avoid em lol..
    Tyres don't seem to leave skid marks on the road which is a bit dissapointing..
    But still it's quite AWESOME to race around,
    It would be even better with AI, But now we have Script AI anyone can record the AI path and hit play..
    Just need to see skid marks on the road to make it look cooler..
    Loving this creation.. :D
    Well Done.. :cool:
     
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  13. Jarret Rucker

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    10 out of fucking 10.
     
  14. bob.blunderton

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    Narrow triangles eat cars.
    Re-divide areas of poly-faces that eat cars by triangulating it manually. This way when/if it triangulates more, it does not bug out and munch on cars.
    Reversed faces also eat vehicles. This is always bad so you never want reversed faces. It's likely a triangulation issue also.

    You can make way points, with the AI able to drive around between them by creating them in the f1 object editor mode.
    You then script it into map.json with each road being it's own line with it's name and it's way points. You can use a way point on multiple lines to connect roads also.

    There's lots of way to do it, but I believe at the current rate the traffic tool does NOT work with way points when I last checked.

    About performance, now I haven't tried the map yet, but if you don't link your faces that have like-textures (same texture on all faces you want to link), each one will be a new draw call. Hitting 4000~5000 faces in a scene will then cause FPS to plummet, even on the best processor and/or graphics card. Make sure to always stay under 3200 draw calls without a vehicle, or 4000 draw calls with a vehicle in the scene/in view. Now if you link your UV's (the faces with texturing are then called UV's), you can render all connected or identical faces in one pass, with that texture, until it runs out of linked textures or gets to the next (not connected) building. Same with roads - connect all the textures you can, and you'd be amazed at the difference in performance. If you use Maya, you can often select and move a bunch of similar faces at once in the UV editor with the drag-and-select method, which can be much easier than moving the camera around to select them all. Fixing this would be a little bit time-consuming but it's totally worth it in the end of it all. Also, a simple collision mesh with no faces narrower than 2~3cm will help keep cars from sticking or passing through faces becoming stuck or broken when they shouldn't break in that spot. Name your collision mesh Colmesh_1 or Colmesh-1 inside the object.
    If you are using Sketchup to make things, please learn Blender (Blender is free!) or purchase (or download trial of) Maya LT. Sketchup is okay for building your dream kitchen, but not for BeamNG.

    Good luck, and let me know if that's not explained well enough.
    Please look up and understand what DRAW CALLS are before attempting a fix. Thanks!
    Also, please get to know about LOD's if you haven't already. LOD's can save the day.
     
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  15. fufsgfen

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    Map runs perfectly.

    Always ending up falling from bridge, would like to drive on loop forever, but maybe I take wrong turn someplace?
     
  16. Shotgun Chuck

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    Are you going clockwise or counterclockwise?

    When you spawn, you're in a parking area; if you go straight ahead to exit and follow the signs you'll be northbound on Daiba line with the Rainbow Bridge behind you and C1 ahead of you. Go straight ahead, mind the eaty polygons in the middle of the road, and you will come to a fork in the road which is called Hamasakibashi JCT (can't believe I had to look that up, guess I'm getting rusty). If you take the ramp to the left, you will be on the outer (clockwise) loop, if you go straight ahead, you will be on the inner (counterclockwise) loop. Now, if you go to the outer loop, you will encounter, in this order:

    -Elevated section weaving between buildings (Shibakouen)
    -Tunnel
    -Another elevated section
    -Another tunnel (Kasumigaseki Tunnel)
    -A roughly ground-level? section which passes a pond
    -Another tunnel
    -Yet another elevated section
    -An offramp which peels off to the right, going high in the air in the process (Edobashi JCT)
    -A sunken section (Takarachou, Ginza)
    -Yet another tunnel
    -A raised platform area, which I believe is called Shidome

    That last area is your signal to watch out. It is three lanes wide and contains a left-right S-curve. After that S-curve, you are back at Hamasakibashi JCT and the road splits. If you veer to the left you will be headed back towards Daiba line and the Rainbow Bridge; the sections you would reach from here (Shinkanjou AKA New Belt Line and Haneda/Yokohane lines) are not replicated in this mod. If you take the ramp to the right, however, you will stay on C1 and be able to lap indefinitely.

    If you go to the inner loop, you will encounter the above-mentioned list of things in reverse order, with the exception that the ramp at Edobashi JCT (sometimes referred to as the "Edobashi Death Ramp" on the inner loop) no longer goes to the sky and the tunnel near Shibakouen is not there, turning the whole area from Kasumigaseki to Hamasakibashi JCT into one long elevated section. In either case, I suspect this is where your problem is; the last elevated section takes you back to Hamasakibashi JCT and in this case it's left to stay on C1, right to go back to the bridge. The ramp to the right (back to the bridge) looks more "straight ahead" in this case than the one to the left. Thus, you must dip to the left before you get to the right-hander that points you at the bridge, and get ready for the road to fall out from under you heading into one of the route's tighter turns.
     
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  17. Tenma Gabriel

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    This is very helpful, thanks for posting it
    but theres things that i already did from that and things that i can't do, for example, linking things with the same material, they're all connected, otherwise beam wouldn't load up the whole map, so i spent almost a week joining them, but it was quite hard, cause blender (yes i used blender) didn't wanted to run very long before starting to eat all my 16gbs of ram, with that, i can't do much modifications to the model (wich btw is a convert, thank god that i didn't modeled it, i'd be crazy by now) but i will try that triangulate thing, also i was thinking, if i separate the parts that a car can collide (such as fences, roads, tunnels) and extrude them it would work to make a better collision mesh?
     
  18. bob.blunderton

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    Well that's good you've already got them connected.
    It really doesn't matter if you make them separate, or if you have them altogether, except if your model is unusually huge. You might opt to make your model a few separate pieces. Make the buildings one and the ground another (much less optimal) , or just chop up the model every city block or so, so it can use LOD's (best). If the game tries to render an entire game level at once, yes it's going to be slow. So entirely, if you don't have LOD's yet, I'd consider chopping up the map into 1-block sizes (or at-least quarter-mile sizes in less dense areas, too many pieces could slow it), and generating LOD's.
    The appropriate model hierarchy that is set up in the DAE files can be gleaned from East Coast USA or any of the game maps, if you haven't yet.
     
  19. Jesus_Christ

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    Hey! No swearing!
     
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  20. Tenma Gabriel

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    i wanted to divide it in squares, but idk how to do it
     
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