Transmission farts

Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by Señor Krill, Aug 28, 2019.

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Should there be more fart sound variants

Poll closed Oct 28, 2019.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Señor Krill

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    This is only my opinion, but I think the DCT and seq gearboxes should have random variants of a fart, I am willing to provide some from a RS3.
    Remember only a opinion/idea. The farts now work great.
     
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  2. Superchu Frostbite

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    Am I just missing a joke here? This sounds like a very unimmersive change for the devs to make. Tell me, What exactly is the purpose of a transmission 'fart'? Do the transmissions in the game fart currently? How can I access this undocumeted feature?
     
  3. Kueso

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    DCT thunderclaps is the better term.
    or sequential thunderclaps, they both use the same sound.
    when a transmission of the two types mentioned make a hard shift (normally under acceleration) they emit a sort of 'fart'
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  4. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    So kind of like those wonderful pops & crackles cable-throttle cars used to make when letting off the gas at high RPM, but all fakey and stupid?
     
  5. Kueso

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    well
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    because these are caused by the transmission- not the actual engine
     
  6. SebastianJDM

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    something about shifting under load causes it, the way spark is cut instantly while shifting to reduce transmission/clutch wear, and then reapplied a split-second later (since DCT and sequential gearboxes can shift very very fast). basically like when you turn your lawnmower off, immediately start it again, and it afterfires from the last trickle of fuel in the exhaust.
     
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  7. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Oh. I thought they got that sound by dumping a small amount of fuel into the exhaust during an upshift to try to fake the sound that engines used to make naturally. Pretty sure there was at least one Audi that did that.
     
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  8. atv_123

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    SebastianJDM has is... essentially what is going on here is that the engine is cutting power to bring the RPM's down faster and allow for quicker gear changes. Basically it allows you to keep the throttle matted AND have superfast, jerkless shifts (or as close as we can get right now) by cutting the timing during a gear change to drop the RPM's as fast as possible. This leaves excessive fuel in the exhaust, so once the next gear is engaged, the ignition starts back up again and bam... everything in the exhaust is ignited along with it creating that "burp" or "fart" or whatever you want to call it.... it's basically a controlled afterfire.
     
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  9. SebastianJDM

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    i prefer "snort". it's more accurate and less childish.

    and to the OP, what's the suggestion here? did i miss something, because this is already in the game.
     
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  10. Kueso

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    what he said
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    two things:
    he wants more variation from transmission to transmission or just more variation in the sounds
    and you can call them thunderclaps too. Its what i call them.
     
  11. Dr. Death

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    I like the idea now that i heard the explanation. And does these farts happen due to the engine quickly ignition cutting or is it some grinding from the gears during quick shifting?
     
  12. atv_123

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    Its exclusively from the ignition cut... it actually has nothing to do with the transmission at all... if you programed the computer to do it for a normal automatic or a stickshift you would get the exact same effect... only since the shifts are much slower... it would would probably sound more like a shotgun going off once the engine fires back up again due to the extra fuel.
     
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  13. Diamondback

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    The idea is to get the engine rpm down as quickly as possible so whatever clutch device sits in the drivetrain sees less strain when shifting.
    In modern production cars ignition cut is not usually what they do, instead they massively delay the ignition so the combustion still happens during the exhaust stroke.
    The bangs don't really happen due to fuel in the exhaust but rather the combustion just partially happening outside the cylinder (same effect really though)
    The reason it's done this way is that the combustion is still somewhat controllable compared to just having unburned fuel in the exhaust.

    Race cars do sometimes just cut ignition though. But with race cars there's really nothing that doesn't exist :D
     
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  14. fivedollarlamp

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    I feel like this would suit the Sunburst RS perfectly.
     
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  15. KrukasKlep

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    If they would add this some Gurgle exhaust sounds would also be nice.
     
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  16. atv_123

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    Ahh... I just thought it was a full ignition cut as that's how one of my friends used to set up their drag car (although I guess that was closer to a twostep at every shift then just controlling rpm's). His idea was basically when the car hit his predetermined redline (which he set just past peek power) the ignition would cut allowing him to shift out of gear and into the next gear without using the clutch or taking his foot off the gas (if he yanked on the stick fast enough anyways). I always thought he was nuts until I started seeing it show up on these modern cars and just assumed they were doing the same kind of trick.

    Incase anyone is curious... that car's transmission did end up exploding at one point as he missed a shift and the ignition timing he set up thought he made it... It also blew a hole in 2 different exhausts... needless to say de doesn't do that anymore.
     
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  17. Dr. Death

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    Full ignition cuts i think its done because they dont mind unburnt fuel in the exhaust. Not like they have to worry about emissions.

    I also agree with this. Any sound coming out of the exhaust of a vehicle is usually a big plus for me.
     
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