VERY low FPS bad performance on ati 290

got the latest 14.6 beta drivers and my 290 absolutely baulks at this game it runs worse than my old 6970 did.

Not sure if its a driver issue or what but i get 20-30fps on any settings

Hitches and runs really badly

Help!

 

What CPU do you have?

 

seems to be depenant on the car/track i load but my i7 920 at stock runs everything else fine.

for example i get 40-60+ fps on most tracks and cars in this until i load say the bruckell moonhawk which runs at 20fps for no reason.

 

I also have very bad fps with bruckell moonhawk, just doesn't go above 30 fps while other cars are at 60 fps

 

Your CPU is bottlenecking. An i7 920 is quite old already, and it is clocked really low below 3Ghz. If you have an R9 290 you should get a new CPU because that one will bottleneck your system in almost any modern game. If you pause physics by pressing ''J'' you will see your FPS will increase a lot, especially with the moonhawk which is the heaviest vehicle for the CPU.

 

try running the banana benchmark .bat file in the beamng directory.

then use this video to switch the benchmark to the moonhawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eXaWs6j7sg

and run it again and see how different it is.

the i7 920 is a pretty bad processor, as seen here: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

 

Yeah, your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU pretty badly. My CPU (AMD A8-3850) is the reason I can't run the Moonhawk with over 30FPS while other vehicles work at better FPS. This game is really CPU dependent unlike other games.

 

the i7 920 is not bottlenecking power wise the singlethread is about a amd fx

they overclock to death these old chip 4.0ghz +


the problem is Beam NG


Im at 30fps with a car on most map with a 7950 at 50-100% load depending on my video setting

i can load 4 other car and still be at 20 fps


Open the grid map and set everything to low and load the pickup and tell me how much fps you have

I have about 150 on that map with the truck on all low


You may need to overclock a bit i dont know what motherboard you have and cooler still?


the 920 can handle all current game when overclocked... it just that beamng is a very heavy game and the CLOCK mean nothing in performance again for people that think that a 899999 ghz processor is good....

It the architecture and Clock and etc

 

With the same GPU, around 280-300 fps.

http://www.beamng.com/threads/7724-CPU-Performance-in-Drive

 

you have a 2500k in the same league as the 920 overclock both and you will crush me in fps...

Im on a 6 core that perform a bit better than your slighly overclocked but both with high overclock will beat me and they only have 4 core of raw power.. while im streched on 6...





Im waiting for the i7 result



The r9 290 is probably a bit more taxing on the cpu that may happen so you may need to overclock the 920

i can handle a 7950 in most game but bf4 tax my cpu enough that i got 80% usage

ive seen some going crossfire with fx 6300 and the result is the gpu are killling the cpu and getting worse fps..


I7 920 at 4.0ghz should be able to run the r9 290

 

What? A 2500k in the same league as the 920? A 2500k is newer, has much better architecture, way higher clocks, way higher overclock capabilites, higher IPC and lower power consumption. And you say your CPU performs better than mine? There's not a single game in which your CPU is faster than mine, even if I'm running stock clocks.

 

Im on overclock.net go ask the same thing and you will see i have multiple proof of benchmark and etc that i beat a stock 3570k in game i have 6 core so the scaling is still so so

The i7 920 can do 4.5ghz you can do 4.5ghz it all about voltage and luck and cooling

At 4.0ghz you probably beat me at 4.8 but we are still close..


i5 2500k beat the i7 920 but they are close

yea the i7 is a power hog


Btw i can show you a 8350 beating a i7 3770k in crysis while at the same time recording and getting about 15 fps more on the same gpu both at stock Im not here to start another war im just saying what i know the i5 2500k is an awesome chip for the time it was released and still currently Singlethread is awesome...


my fx is a power hog compared to your i5 that may explain that am able to compete it like comparing a 4 cylinder car turbo with a poor v8 that pump oil...





I7 920 STOCK with r9 290

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Another proof look the i7 975 is a 920 overclocked in some ways put them a same clock and

Bam almost same fps


http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

 

I don't know where you are getting all this information from, but I'll try to correct you:

To achieve 4,5Ghz on an i7 920 requires some serious overclocking skills, a crazy cooler (custom watercooling), and nice luck to have a good chip, because most won't go any higher than 4.2-4.3, whereas I can overclock mine easily to 4,7Ghz with a Corsair H50.

The i5 2500k and the i7 920 are not close. Maybe the FPS are similar in some games with similar clocks, but that doesn't mean they perform the same, that means neither of those 2 is bottlenecking the GPU. You can see these 2 CPU have very different performance in BeamNG.

That video you posted is showing a HUGE bottleneck, how is that possible to have such crappy performance on Crysis 3 playing at 1650x1050 and medium settings with an R9 290? I can max out that game with better fps.

 

Hyperthreading it the problematic in beam NG Hyperthreading work well in some game and some it crap


Did not know to what i remember the 920 was able to do 4.5 but yea it seem it watercooling only... Just relalised there a not unlocked chip

But even then overclock it to 4ghz and it will be on par with your i5

The hyperthreading inflate Benchmark and most Test result... about 25% your right that the cpu bottleneck but im right that the cpu is able to perform as much as your it just that the singlethread is lower. like my fx 6300


The i7 920 look like a core 2 quad extreme + ht

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anyways the only upgrade path is a i5 4690k currently

i dont think it worth it


The i7 920 at 4.0ghz can beat the stock i5 2500k after some search the 2500k at 4.0ghz + can compete with current i5


the jump between these architecture is bigger than i though im sorry your right about that...

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This guy do not seem to have problem at 3.8




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoIOsFJLm2w



Im a bit lost the op said that he lost fps with the new gpu with latest driver... and uh with all setting




He need to try the lowest setting and give some result



Btw the game gain fps for me with lower resolution for an unknow reason

 

Hyperthreading is problematic with BeamNG yes, hyperthreading is actually problematic for any multithreaded application which requires high CPU time per thread (few things do). It does not inflate the BeamNG test result, it does not inflate benchmark test results as both are usually based on actual number crunching ability, there is no inflation to be had, no test detects hyperthreading and then adds a few hundred points to the score. BeamNG test results actually show hard evidence for hyperthreading being a bottleneck, entirely contrary to the claim that its inflating scores. The BeamNG built in test actually takes the game physics core and runs that standalone (essentially running the game without the graphics) to see how many beams it can simulate in one go based on the pickup truck (although you can modify the script that launches the demo to use different vehicles instead), it does produce a solid representation of how 2 computers will compare when running BeamNG as the test itself is actually using the BeamNG physics core.

If you gain FPS with lower resolution there is a very obvious explanation. GPU cant cope with the original resolution.

 

thank you for explaining

But what i mean is that cpu with hyperthreading show higher benchmark score like the i5 4690k vs the i7 4790k they are the same chip without some part that allow for the ht or something like that disabled ht and they show the same score

We just seem some guy on Overclock.net with a 3570k that magically got hyperthreading in the bios i dont know if this is real or not but people say that the ht part is cut with a laser and it may have some chip that did not get cut correctly or something

Showing score with and without ht and all the bench show 3570k cpu z too

That is what i did not take in the count.... HT and effect ( do help in some case and other do nothing like beam ng In video rendering the ht help alot


Btw my 7950 is able to handle beamng im sure or i may be wrong i never tried crysis 3 still...

My test is at the lowest setting with 1080p to the lowest scale i jump from 120fps to 150fps from 1080p to the lowest res

It there any know bug with amd gpu or something i did not see anything about that on the forum ...

 

Pretty much the only major difference between an i5 and an i7 is indeed hyperthreading (although mobile i5's often have it still and there are 2 desktop models with it, not from the standard range though). I think some of the i7's have an extra pipeline stage over the i5. It is certainly not just a case of cutting a part with a laser unfortunately, what is more likely is that the dude is just bluffing.


There have been issues reported with BeamNG on AMD GPUs. I think they are mostly isolated to missing textures. There are also issues on NVidia cards using the new GK110 core due to a DirectX9 compatibility issue.

 

Here it is http://www.overclock.net/t/1496007/3570k-ht-unlocked-4c-8t/0_100

Idk for mobile the i5 is just meh the i7 is awesome

 

Happened to me on my 7950 idk if it driver but the gpu wont work until you reboot... i was folding at 10k ppd at 100% load and i was playing at 20 fps at full clock... Reboot and it work like a new one....


Any new if the r9 290 work now?

 

ATI, wow - they changed their name long ago...