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will this game accept amd fx?

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by lyndon123, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. lyndon123

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    i have purchased a whole new computer, well i am building my first one and it is an amd fx 6 core system and my question is: Will it accept this game
     
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    Yes, but AMD FX CPU aren't particularly good for complex stuff.
     
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  3. lyndon123

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    what do you mean and thanks for quick responce
     
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    It will run game slower than what you would think, based on number of cores and clock speed, i3 might be faster in some situations at game.

    Has something to with type of math needed, FX is not very fast computing kind of math BeamNG uses.

    i5 K model is best performance vs price for 2-3 vehicles (it can run 4 vehicles too, but depending of GFX load on CPU might slow down a bit), but if you want to run more vehicles, then better wait to see how Ryzen evolves, new revisions might be best option, but it is still bit unclear, i7 is performing well, but 6-8 vehicles is definitely a limit, if Ryzen revisions improve CPU there might not be any point in getting i7.

    FX will run the game (with overclock I guess it can run it quite well at least with single vehicle and vanilla content), but in some situations and with several vehicles it might be slowing down quite bit, at least that is what I have read from board about it.
     
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    Assuming you are talking FX 8350 here (really the only one worth even considering at this point) then you will run the game fine, however the more complex vehicles like the T series will have trouble. I used to own one not long ago and it did run the basic T series but the versions like the cement truck wouldnt run very well.

    Overall though it would do fine in game for the most part, but honestly unless you are getting the FX chip for very cheap, you are better off saving for the new AMD Ryzen CPUs, like 1700 or 1700x as they run BeamNG and all games in general brilliantly.
     
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    Yes, it will run miles better. The RAM and HDD will be fine too. However that graphics card is ancient and I would be surprised if it runs the game on anything but low and will definitely bottleneck your system.
     
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    I have an FX8350 and runs fine
     
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    Intel's i3 has iGPU and when I had that, I did look around which silent GPU I could get, GT730 was slower or at par, can't remember exact numbers, but GT730 needs to be updated to something faster, GTX1070 for 1080p or higher and GTX1050 for 720p (it can do 1080p too, but might need to lower details a bit), however AMD had some nice performance level cards at GTX 1050 price range, can't remember numbers now, but there is threads about them if you look around.
     
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    GT 730 is multimedia GPU, for gaming it is bit slow, that means, BeamNG might not run faster with new CPU, when limiting factor is your GPU, surely new CPU will help a bit, but CPU will most likely wait your GPU so to get faster performance, you would need new GPU also.
     
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    You're overexagerating a bit there, a GTX 1070 is good for 1440p gaming, way overkill for 1080p. I have an RX 460 which is slightly worse than a 1050, and it runs 1080p at almost max settings, so not sure where you got 720p from.
     
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  13. VeyronEB

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    This, the game even ran on my old HD 5770 well enough on medium at 1080p
     
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    Aim is 60fps solid max settings, no dropping below, not maxing out GPU most of the time (you have to allow computing power for some effects like smoke etc or you drop below target when you get extra load).

    When you test lot of different maps, mod maps etc. with bit more than 4 vehicles, you can see the picture.

    When you start testing with lot of headlights, you will soon find out how CPU will very quickly run out of computing power, even with most powerful CPU.

    720p is what I use, in windowed mode it allows me to jump between notepad++ etc., if I would use 1080p more GPU power would be needed, at 720p I'm quite often CPU limited, while at 1080p I'm GPU limited and there are maps and situations where at 1080p I run out of GPU power and there are maps and situations where I run out of CPU power with 720p and even with 1080p (bit more rare).

    You can run game perfectly fine 60fps even with iGPU, when you choose your settings, locations and vehicle accordingly.

    Driving becomes a lot harder when FPS is not consistent, difference in experience is quite big especially if trying to drive any kind of hot lapping etc.

    If you are fine with below 60fps, then good, but when you get solid 60fps it is very hard to go back to anything less smooth.
     
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    Everyone's aim is different, and at this budget, I doubt he'll have enough for a 1070. Turn on VSync and max out the settings with a 1050 Ti, and you're rocking a solid 60 FPS max settings @1080p. Sure if you go completely overkill and get 4 cars on a big map it will drop by a few FPS, but that's a rare scenario that's definitely NOT worth the 200-300 dollars more to get it smooth.
     
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    Sadly I must disagree with you, this is maxed out settings 1080p with Gigabyte 1050 Ti OC 4GB, it manages to do 31FPS:
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    You might want to drive at night, drops to 25FPS:
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    upload_2017-3-28_15-11-18.png This is maxed out settings.

    Turning off SSAO and Dynamic reflections gives 67FPS without headlights on at that situation, turning headlights on and reaching 60FPS becomes again challenging.

    There are lot of places and maps which are much heavier with max settings, even that East Coast has places where more GPU power is needed than at highway spawn.

    Normal settings and setting textures to high, no SSAO and no Dynamic reflections it does run most maps most of the time at 60FPS with 1080p, but for certainly not with max settings. Some maps are fine with everything maxed, but only at places, imo.

    So naturally one has to know what one wants, then one has to try to find out which gives what one wants, nobody every thinks about driving at night or at dusk with headlights on, same with map variety and how they require quite different level of performance, or if one wants to pull trailer with some vehicles on it, or several trailers, it seems quite often even max settings seem to be different from person to person.

    I don't know if Banana bench tests graphics side at all, but what I think is we need figure out standardized testing of GPU and CPU performance, challenge is that it would be nice to have different mod map performance to have index as well.


    With small budget, RX470 looks really good, imo. It performs somewhere between 1050 and 1060 and costs less than 1050.
     
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  17. VeyronEB

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    Your dynamic reflections are ridiculously high, that is why. Turning faces per update to max like that will tank anything...
     
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    Max is not less than max, without dynamic reflections still it is not able to do 60fps, trust me, I know my stuff.

    Even 1050 Ti can run everything maxed out, it is simple understanding where and when, how BeamNG really works etc.
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    Veyron is right tho.
    Face per Update is a very expensive setting. We placed a warning when you set it above the 'average' setting for a reason.
    You need a real beast to be able to use that maxed out (Unless Gridmap or similar 'few-vegetation-like' maps.
     
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  20. fufsgfen

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    It is, my point just was that 1050 Ti is not going to run max settings, like @BombBoy4 claimed, surely high settings quite often, normal settings most of the time and if using 720p on many maps I can set dynamic reflections to max like everything else, depends from the map.

    Problem here is that it is impossible to make claims X runs BeamnNG fine, when there is no data about use case scenario, it may, it may not.

    For 1080p I really would consider something clearly faster than 1050Ti to keep things running smoothly for future, but lowering settings, on some maps to very low, one can get by just fine, it is what one wants.
     
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