Z97 or X99

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  1. pillojon106

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    The ram I had would have worked and I had the h100i gtx but I'm gonna do push pull. I'll get the 512 ssd then. The reason I got 2 hhds is bacause the WD black was for games and the WD green was for music, movies, and documents.
     
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    No point in having two HDDs, simply buy a WD Black with twice the capacity for less money.

    Also, as I said, don't waste money on reference cooled cards.
     
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    I did some research about that and I need a GPU that has a length of 266mm because I'm going to do puch pull on the h100i gtx. That's whyi got the fans and the commander mini. So the only card long enough to fit is the reference 980. I guess I can I can get a 2tb WD black instead of 2 HDDs.
     
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    While the RAM probably would have worked, the companies that make RAM don't support using RAM from two different sets. On the off chance that they had been incompatible you would have had to come up with a reason to return it, which I prefer not to do.

    And trust me, you never ever want to deal with a 5400rpm drive. They are sooooo slowwwww.
     
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    No real reason to do push-pull on a 4790K unless you're planning on some serious overclocking. Also, reference cards are 267 mm long :p
     
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    I was going to use the 5400 rpm drive for ONLY storage. No games, no applications. The ram will be fine. I'm getting 2 kits of the same exact memory so it will be fine.

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    I ment 267. Lol. Anyways, I am going to be going serious overclocking but not to serious.
     
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    Nonono, that's what I'm saying. RAM is only guaranteed to work with the sticks that come with it's set. No other ones anywhere, even if they have the exact same part number.
     
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    Ohh ok so should I get 4x 4gb kit of ram then?
     
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    How much? An H100i GTX should keep a 4790K cool at over 5 GHz with the proper voltage for those speeds.
     
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    Um. I'm not sure about that. Maybe on gaming loads but not benchmarking or stress testing.
    I would go with 2x8GB for dual-channel RAM.

    Also, look into this.
    http://siliconlottery.com/collections/all
     
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    So that comes with pre overclocked CPUs? How does that work?

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    I might not go that far
     
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    If you're not going over 5 GHz then a stock H100i GTX should be enough. The 4790K is boost clocked at 4.4 GHz. Also, it's not a very good idea to have the radiator in the only intake of the case, since you'll be pushing hot air into the GPUs. If the case doesn't support a 240mm radiator on top (I think it doesn't) you might want a large ('fat') 120mm radiator with two high-airflow fans.
     
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    Could I just switch up the fans to front facing exhaust?
     
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    Bad idea.
    I just checked though, the case does support dual 120mm fans on top. So you can mount a 240mm radiator without killing GPU cooling.
     
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    Ya but there is a problem. If I try to put a radiator on the top, there is very little to no clearance for the radiator because of the motherboard. Also, why would it be a bad idea
     
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    There should be enough clearance for a 240mm radiator with fans on one side, most radiators are top mounted so it only makes sense for the case to support it.

    Also, rear-to-front airflow is a bad idea because blower GPUs exhaust air out the back of the case and take from the front, so you'd get a weird spiral-like airflow where the graphics cards, especially the top card would have to speed up the fans in order to not be starved for air, would be quite noisy. Most likely anyway, I haven't actually tested it.
     
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    I went on corsair's website and the only radiator support is front 240mm and a bottom 120mm but for mini itx only.
     
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    Weird. A radiator intake generally isn't a good idea since it will blow hot air into the GPUs. You should probably ask around on some other forum though, I don't know much about liquid cooling.

    Here's a simple airflow test made in the most realistic simulator ever: Powder toy
    This is good airflow:
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    Front intake, GPUs exhaust, rear and top exhaust. As you can see there's a lot of air going through the case and the GPUs are pulling out quite a bit as well.

    And this is what happens when you have rear and top intake, front exhaust:
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    As you can see, airflow is fine for the case, but you get a weird vacuum in front of the graphics cards which causes them to be completely starved for air.

    It's not a very accurate simulation, but TPT's air pressure code is good enough to explain the concept.
     
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    So Now I'm now in a situation when I dont know what case to get then. I like the air 240 for it being compact, its dual chamber design, and its sleek look. But hearing this, I dont know if i should stay with this case. I would get the air 540 but it is to big for partability.
     
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    You might want to ask someone else about the radiator intake. I don't have much experience with liquid cooling and don't really know just how hot the air gets.

    The Corsair Air cases are designed to maximise efficiency of air cooled systems.
     
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