Audio Feedback Thread

I propose adding sounds of transmission to the game - gearboxes, rear axle gears and more .. Some cars, even new ones, have an inherent design flaw - the transmission howls, for example, as in this car.
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Apologies for posting this twice, but I see it belongs here rather than in the 0.19 update thread.

I just wanted to add that the crackling effect on overrun is fantastic but I think the off throttle engine/exhaust noise needs reviewing as it's far too quiet in my opinion.

Most notable is with the Vivace Hillclimb/race models, brilliantly loud under power but off throttle and when down changing it's like the engine has been switched off despite being at 6-7k rpm.

All the cars are like this to some extent but another good example would be the Covet, can fit tuned engine parts to it and raise the rev limit up and it sounds great but then changing down for a corner and it goes almost silent. It sounds as if there is zero exhaust noise unless throttle is applied, which in reality is wrong and I think this spoils the game a little

 

@TDK
i know this probably isn't the best place to post this suggestion, but it's the only place where i'm positive it'll be listened to:

the new i3 sound is really good, and suits the new cars quite well. however, the pigeon's i3 sound on the diesel engine really doesn't fit it. it's fine on the 600cc gas engine, but i think the "new" i3 sound is a lot more "diesel-ish" than the currently used pigeon sound. maybe put in a word to swap it out? maybe i'm wrong, we'll see if anyone gives me any agree ratings.

i added versions of the two pigeon engines but using the new i3 sound, and it fits quite well for both honestly. the muffled version sounds good for the diesel, and if you rip the exhaust off it sounds quite nice for the 600 as well. idk haha.

 

Excellent work on the latest audio updates!
Is there any plan to use the I4 for the cherrier on any other vehicles?

Also not that I have much experience in real life, but the D-series offroad suspension is almost inaudible compared to a street vehicle, wouldn't it make a bit of noise going over some rough bumps?

 

Cool, I'll keep it in mind

 

Probably misunderstood. I mean, not the sounds of the gears turning on, but the sounds of the rotation of the mechanisms themselves inside the box. Here's an example of how this is done in one game.

If you listen carefully, there are 3 independent sounds - the noise from the wheels, the sound of a diesel engine and the howling sound of a transmission, which is very loud because the gearbox is very noisy on such tractors. With an increase in load, the sound of a transmission (especially in low gears) becomes louder, with an increase in speed, the tonality increases In BeamNG there are so far only two sounds - the sound of tires and the sound of the engine, and for example, making a tractor with this sound will not work.
Sometimes even passenger cars howl box))

 

your post was really well put together, and i'm sorry to say this, but you're super wrong. beamng does this already. just drive any sequential gearbox car and you'll hear it. on passenger cars this also occurs, just much quieter. just as you described. it's subtle but still there. pretty noticeable in the pigeon iirc.

 

@TDK you’re doing an outstanding job. The sound updates are always my favorite parts in an update. The exhaust crackle and pops from the new Vivace race variants are incredible.

 

Simply put, make the sound of the gears on the principle that is implemented in version 0.18 - in rear gears there is the sound of a gearbox. Just not for one gearbox, but so that you can assign a sound to any mechanism - for example, the rear differential, cardan, transfer case .. I hope you understand)))

 

something i've been wanting is to have the ability to add the gear whine to a differential. it's not super common, but sometimes fully built racing differentials use straight cut gears, and i believe old mini coopers did as well. would be a nice addition to the piccolina. also, not sure if this is still true, but gear whine didn't seem to affect automatic transmissions last i checked, which was the last big update to the function, when it seemed to be added to all manual transmissions. my boss's diesel work truck is a 4-speed auto, and it whines pretty noticeably off-throttle in first gear and a bit in second.

on the topic of audio suggestions, it would be wise to record some sound samples of different tire rolling sounds. i'm not "very in-the-know" but i'd be willing to bet that in the future, off-road tires will buzz or hum more, and more loudly, than street tires. it's something i strongly believe could add immersion and realism, and would be quite welcome with all of the new more advanced offroad vehicles recently (hopper crawler, d-series parts, the new teased truck coming soon). maybe the only thing halting this addition is the lack of sound samples to use? surely if this is the case, you guys would have the power to speed up the process.

also, speaking of the pigeon from earlier, it's gone through a lot of sound changes. i understand that recording car sounds can be costly, time consuming, and even frustrating at times. but what's stopping you guys from recording some i3 diesel sounds? is it your location? in the states, some lawn mowers use this engine type. kubota being a popular manufacturer. i understand the dev team is based in europe, but surely there's some type of farming machinery that would use this engine type and could be borrowed for a couple afternoons.

not to be rude or anything i understand it's a lot of work. it's just that sound is one of my favorite parts of realistic type games. i think the pigeon is super neglected. if it does end up getting remastered in the near-future, i'd love to see an official diesel i3 sound for it, that won't have to be changed in the future.

 

Are we able to use FMOD .banks yet? I really hope this update allowed us too! Super stoked! You have no idea! @TDK

 

Would you ever consider recording car samples yourself if you ever got the resources?

Side note: I remember reading somewhere that the sound devs from Burnout Paradise actually went to a junkyard and smashed up car pieces to get sounds for the game, which i thought was pretty interesting

 

When you say test do you mean limited amount of people with access? Thanks for the information!

 

So I spent the morning using headphones to try and help out with any sound issues, first of all I have to say this again, using speakers just doesn't do the audio work justice, the amount of detail in each sound and sounds you just don't pick up using speakers is crazy.
Sadly using speakers and the game aiming for realism means that engine sounds will always be significantly louder than ambient sounds and other little details, but even then it sounds great and the realism here just adds to the experience, gear whine, turn signals, suspension, turbo, engine, ambient, the reverb and all are great. Excellent job guys.

So a few things I noticed, some cars have much quieter suspension than others as I mentioned yesterday, the ones I noticed are the I-series, D-series, Hopper (not the crawler that works great), and Roamer. You can't hear the suspension over the engine sounds on these ones.

The new glass sounds are great but it seems like some samples are too loud or too subtle, breaking a large window can sometimes only sound like a light was smashed.

The new crash sounds have that realistic thump to them you'd hear echo down the street and that sound triggering issue will help.

That speed related audio wobble seems to be gone and that's great!

The wind at high speeds sounds excellent on the hood camera, it really adds to the thrill of going fast, but I feel it could be louder for chase view since in that case you're again outside of the vehicle.

The ambient sounds (small island at least) are really good, but could maybe be a liiittle louder, driving with an open window in summer can be pretty loud on a windy day, and crickets are pretty loud when near them.

All in all thanks for your great work here, hope this helps!