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Update Speculation thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. ManfredE3

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    I don't see where McBeamer said anything wrong here, the ETK's existing engine is an i6. There's no opinion there to disagree with. I can't think of an IRL vehicle in class which offered both i6 and V6 options in the same generation.
     
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  2. Borg Drone

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    yeah i see my mistake with the disagreeing part
    also why not have a v6 when the Civetta Scintilla has the after market diesel v8 it could be the same
    more engine choices more fun
    could be a engine for my speculated k-series gt4
     
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  3. alex1dp

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    That's extremely unlikely, a 2.7 V6 (be it single or twin-turbo) would make way too much power, especially for such a short wheelbase car, and there would be significant problems with heat management. With a turbo 2.7 it would also fall in the 4l class, so it would need to run with a lot of ballast.
    If the devs want to keep it within real Group B regulations, it will probably have a ~1.75l DOHC I4 to take advantage of the lower minimum weight of the 2.5l class.

    A Group A version would most likely be front engine, the mid engine version wouldn't probably have had enough units built to receive Group A homologation.
     
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  4. McBeamer94

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    The only reason I said that is because I was only referring to the ETK I6s. I know, the brand doesn't only make I6s, they also make I4s and, like many fellow commenters in here, I want the ETK variety to expand to different engines, like I3s, V8s and V12s (there's plenty of brand-expansionary material to be made with these engines, plus there's the characteristic "Lego", "0.5 liter per cylinder" way of engine manufacturing which I have mentioned quite a few times and for which the Germans are well known today).
    But in particular, the ETK brand is very well known for its I6s in the game lore and they have become a trademark feature of the brand so it wouldn't make sense changing them to V6s. It's purely a matter of uniqueness.
     
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  5. gtaman788

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    I think there MAY be a FWD pessima Swap V6 for all youre V6 needs.

    Possibly a V6 RWD NON factory swap to. ?

    other then that. It seems like Covet is a inline 4 only or inline 3 if they add one :)
     
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  6. McBeamer94

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    About the Group B car, you're right to some extent. The V6 may be a bit heavy and the turbos are gonna make a lot of heat but then again the turbos can be water cooled and the intercoolers can be mounted inside the side air vents, in front of the rear wheels, so that can sweeten the deal. Plus the V6 is already mounted transversely in the Pessima (even if it is the new Pessima and not the old one), so the technical part is already prepared and there's only the Rally AWD system to complete it. The ballast is certainly gonna kneecap the car though.
    As for the Group A car, you're absolutely right, it has to be front-engined because we're talking about a more sedate category in general but the Group A cars (or most of them at least) still had AWD so I think it's vital for the Group A Covet too.
     
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  7. CatAstrophe05

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    i feel like while the group b version is pretty clearly gonna be an r5 turbo mixed with a 6r4 we're probably gonna get a delta integrale-like if they make a group a version
     
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  8. Borg Drone

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    we also have the bolide rally car and thats almost undrivable and thats group 4 ? so a covet with an v6 tt/turbo doesn't sound so far off they can also implement restrictor plates like the toyota celica had in the 90s
     
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  9. McBeamer94

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    Group 4 cars weren't that advanced, they didn't have AWD afaik.
    As for restrictor plates, the concept is good to be included in the parts selector (say a "300hp Restrictor Plate" or a "350hp Restrictor Plate", all included into the Stage 3 Variable Boost Turbo submenu). Nice idea.
     
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  10. SNFriedM14

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    Theres actually a radio UI app i think.
     
  11. Razor_T

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    I thought that it was the bridge in WCUSA, not SSRB. IDK
     
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  12. McBeamer94

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    The WCUSA bridge has a metal frame with visible train tracks on the top while the area we see in the Bastion trailer has a solid concrete roof. So it's safe to say that there's a new map coming.
     
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  13. Borg Drone

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    maybe they decided to update WCUSA and make it bigger
    i wondered why theres a bridge into nothing, that the highway and some of the tunnel are blocked and belasco is clearly cut in half
    they clearly planned something with that and never implemented it (for whatever reason, maybe performance?)
     
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  14. Copunit12

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    The bridge use to not be (normally) drivable but due to massive amount of request it was made drivable. WCUSA suffers from having too many things in one map problems. It has a full size race course, back roads, city driving, highway driving all in a map that is only slightly larger then ECUSA. It put in too many things in too small of a area.

    The map can't be made bigger (devs said so) so if it were to be made bigger it would need to be remade.

    WCUSA has had this mixed opinion from the community since it was released (leaning a bit towards the negative from my eyes but I am biased). I've said for years that the map needs to be removed and rebuilt from the ground and if that's not possible remove the race track and map it it's own map then fill the race track in with a suburb - more city area and fix the map edges.

    Some quotes from a long time ago.

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  15. McBeamer94

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    Tbh I have the same opinion, WCUSA is overstuffed and overcrowded but I wouldn't say the race track must be removed. I therefore believe that the whole map needs to grow in size in order for the infrastructure to be harmoniously integrated. For example, the Dockyards could be farther away from the city (the large parking areas have their purpose though because there are still some large commercial buildings there) and the large Oil Refinery Tanks have no business being that close to Downtown. In reality, this would mean that the smell of the unrefined oil products would reach the Promenade and the whole Downtown part of the city, Promenade to Platin Gate Bridge, would reek. Not to mention that the Oil Tanks are also perilously close to the Hospital, with all the respiratory issues this may be causing.
     
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  16. C-:

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    Hope we get some serious k24 vtec ish engine sound for the Covet. That would be sick.
    And an updated model for the k-series. It's looking pretty old for the current standards. Proportions of the line look a bit weird Imo.

    Also, y'all are forgetting about the Renault Clio v6, that in fact had a v6 in the rear, being the same archetype. I see it totally possible for the Covet.
     
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  17. Borg Drone

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    WCUSA needs space to breathe
    and people already made it bigger and it worked fine where the author grafted multiple official maps together on WCUSA map
    so im now confused why they said it cant be possible
    And there are maps that dwarf WCUSA and italy combined (los injurus and american road)
     
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    #45798 Aquila:), Aug 7, 2022
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  19. McBeamer94

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    The WCUSA was their first urban map and, IIRC, the devs said that their calculations went wrong with the map size and it was already too late in the design process to change it (and make it larger, for that matter), so they had to leave much of their original design out of the final map product. That's why:
    • the city is only half of what it could be
    • the Platin Gate Bridge has that cheap turnaround tunnel and the island is inhabited and has no infrastructure
    • the equally cheap turnaround tunnel, added in December 2020, exists past the gas station that was also added in the 0.21 Update in December 2020
    • the main expressway doesn't continue past the Redwood Forest and there's also nothing in the other end, behind the exit tunnels (that were also added in December 2020), despite the discreet on-ramp to the expressway on the right
    • those same tunnels end up on the road cutting the expressway with the bridge.
    The devs have put metric tons of work into this map but the aforementioned aspects don't make sense for it to represent a true urban environment map and were done as countermeasures for the lack of content. And that's why I think it needs to get larger.
     
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  20. Franz027

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    Nono, it was SSRB
    --- Post updated ---
    Really?
     
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