All the I5's are 6 core/ 6 thread CPU's All the I7's are 6 core/ 12 thread CPU's Its probably the most significant upgrade to Intel's CPU line up since they started the I3/I5/I7 line-up. The benchmarks are looking impressive enough too, with the CPU's being competitive with Ryzen in multithreaded workloads while having good single core performance too.
So i just noticed that when my second screen turns off the powerlight stays on so its probably no power problem then so this means either theres a problem with the screen or the igpu but when it was connect to another graphics card it worked fine
Unfortunately for Coffee Lake, the consumer platform is still way too restrictive to be compelling to me. 16 PCIe lanes on the CPU, 24 in the chipset. However, all but 8 of those lanes are pretty much dedicated to something, whether it be PCIe storage, Thunderbolt, USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc. The consumer really only realistically has 8 lanes to play with. Sure, you're not bottlenecking even a 1080Ti with that, but that's not the point. What if I need a GPU and for some reason a RAID controller card for RAID applications outside of 1/0/10? Or perhaps a dedicated sound card, or 10Gb NIC, or a wireless NIC. You STILL can't do that with a consumer grade Intel platform. What's more is you can get a 6C/12T CPU on their X299 platform, too. And X299 has an upgrade path, quad-channel memory, etc., etc. Their entire CPU lineup is still a complete fucking mess, no matter how powerful they are.
That is true. Having said that, I do run dual GPU's plus a sound card and a PCIe USB3.0 header through a sandybridge I5 system with PCIe2.0 (I also have 2SSD's, 2HDD's, plus a DVD drive). So personally I am not all that fussed about how many lanes there are since its already not an issue for me and with PCIe 3.0 its even less of an issue. It would likely be a different story if I was running hardware raid on a PCIe controller, with high end network card etc.
So the new retro thinkpad is out. I am so disappointed. 1899usd laptop. 7500U CPU, 16gb of RAM, 512gb nvme ssd and a 940MX GPU rendering to a 1920*1080p non touch 14" display. However for 1649, you can have an xps15 of the same physical size and weight, only fitting a 15" display with slimmer bezel. It has a 7700HQ, 16gb of RAM, 512gb nvme ssd and a GTX1050 GPU also to 1920*1080p non touch display. Other source of confusion. Lenovo claim a 48Whr battery capacity. Then claim 14 hours of battery life. This, does not add up at all, even with that CPU and GPU low TDP it does not add up. They then later claim its got a 3 cell fixed battery and a 3 cell removable battery, now 14 hours from a combined 96Whr of capacity could make sense, but it is not clear whether this is actually the case or not, if it is, well, the 7700HQ can do 12 hours on 97Whr and has a higher TDP, 14 becomes a tad unimpressive, though theres many other things also draining battery and there could be mixed benchmarks etc etc. The design is classic lenovo, thats cool, the rest is really meh. NVidia have stopped making the 940MX, lenovo must be using old stock, which kinda sucks when the MX150 (which is literally just a desktop GT1030) has replaced it, demonstrating longer battery lives in the machines that have upgraded to it and also demonstrating *double* performance. Yes the MX150 has a slightly higher TDP, but it does mean achieving almost double performance on it, it doesnt have to work as hard to do the same work, and more importantly pascal in mobile is capable of incredibly underclocks when not needed. Really look at those numbers. the xps15 has the 1050. 67fps in tomb raider, versus 21 fps in the lenovo, its also not confirmed that the lenovo is using the full 23W version and not the 15 or 20W throttled versions.
I'll be honest, I dont know alot about laptops atall, but I know the 10 series of Nvidia cards (the desktop ones atleast) use massively reduced power when compared to the 9 series. If this is the same with the laptop models, then it makes no sence that they'd use older cards, especially at that price for the computer.
It's Lenovo. They don't care about raw power for their ThinkPad line, it's more about pure reliability. Generation old hardware is usually more bug-free, better validated, and better established.
Nah. The 10 series at peak utilises more power. What's changed is performance per watt, it's insanely high. There's also more tools available to allow it to underclock and conserve power usage in mobile devices. The 940MX is a 23W part, the MX150 replacement is a 25W part, yet it's roughly double the performance. This also goes for desktop cards with most being about 10W more than previous gen counterparts Argument against the 940MX on reliability front. A) lower max temp. B) nvidia stopped making them entirely. They were outright discontinued and nvidia offer no support for it. A bit contraire for the ThinkPad really
The ThinkPad 25 is a disappointment. We got nothing we asked Lenovo for aside from the keyboard, it's a T470 with a T420 keyboard... Not to mention it's not avalible in the UK (Allegedly)
Not sure how well it will sell to enthusiasts really. However, for people who want a retro aesthetic computer at all costs, this could be a winner. Could be an ideal inner city "expensive coffee shop" computer. It allows you to have that retro styling with moderately up to date hardware. Equally, for people who do a lot of typing it could be a nice choice, since you don't need high end specs, just solid robust hardware with battery life and a nice typing feel, with the extra retro aesthetic once again it could be a winner. Think of it more as a MacBook alternative for people who don't want a mac. But I am not sure if that style of Lenovo is old enough yet to have gone full circle to being back in fashion.
I'd rather not have people drive up the prices on old ThinkPads... They make great inexpensive work horses.
It's not as if you need a quad core to run MS Office and Edge. As far as a thin laptop goes I would much rather have two more powerful cores than four less powerful ones, since you are limited by power draw at the end of the day. If my current Laptop's I7 had 4 cores equalling roughly the same multicore performance as its dual core, I would be very not stoked about its performance.
You say you don't need high specs to do the things that this laptop is expected to do, which is correct. Yet the thing cost nearly $2000! You're paying high spec prices, and getting the short straw, just so your 'fancy new computer' looks 10 years out of date. Unless they were aiming for it to perform like an older computer too, to keep the nostalgic factor, but we all know thats not true. You say that buying an older Thinkpad would come with compromises, which is true, but other than running an older version of everything, there really isn't anything that computer can't do which this one can. Unless you're buying it for the fingerprint scanner and USB-C, which yeah, the older one doesn't have, it doesn't do much else. And while they're not used anymore, the old one atleast had a CD drive too. You get a thin PC (Which I don't really understand why everyone is so obsessed about. Thicker PC's are more powerful and have better batteries) with weak specs and a pretty standard screen, for a price of nearly $2000. It's storage doesn't even reach the 1TB mark... I mean, aside from not having the fancy new USB-C and such, and maybe being alittle slower, there isn't anything this computer can do that a laptop for £500 can't. And if you're willing to spend that much on a computer, you'd probably do your research, and probably pick the better computer, as apposed to the one that looks like the old one. Sorry for the wall of text. I started typing, so had to finish. :/
You are not paying $2000 for components at all. You are paying $2000 for a machine that is well built, and a machine that is a special edition. There isn't anything computation based that a £400 I5 based laptop can't do that a £1500 ultrabook can. And lets face it, there isn't anything that an ordinary person would want to do that a £200 Celeron isn't capable of. However when you pay more you get something that is thin and light, has a good quality keyboard and is generally well designed rather than being built to the tightest budget possible all corners being cut. I'm not about to claim that this laptop represents top notch value for money, but you can do far far worse. Then there is economy of scale, when you are building an entire keyboard as a one off for one laptop that isn't likely to sell too many. Each individual unit will have to cost more to cover the costs of retooling.
The ThinkPad 25 was supposed to be aimed at the die hard ThinkPad enthusiasts who have a niche collection of ThinkPads... Like me..
