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Discussion in 'Official Content' started by gabester, Jan 28, 2013.
Likely the next month or 2. It's usually more or less 3 months between every major update
I would like to discuss the Gavril performance package options. The Impala (Similar to the BuBu, which will hopefully get an analogue) was the first Chevy to get an SS badge, and older cars in game are getting revisited, so some updates to the RS packages are relevant. This is mostly aimed at the Barstow RS solely because the BuBu isn't in game yet, so we don't know what it's performance packages, if any, are like.
Currently the Barstow's Roadsport package really does look plain for a performance package of a late 1960's muscle car, with the concelead headlights being the only real visual change. Visually, that is similar to the Rally Sport of the gen 1 Camaro. The SS and Z/28 options had stripes and performance upgrades, and the SS had fake air intakes. Chevy would let you mix the RS package with the others, on top of a plethora of normal options, so things got messy fast.
Ford at this time is not something I really want to go into, being that the gen 1 Mustang often saw major changes and Ford really liked their special editions, and the Shelby Mustang is historically far more important than the Yenko/COPO/Baldwin Camaros. I will say that the Ford performance packages did often see a lot of visual additions.
Then there's the MOPAR cars. Just look at them, the aggressive hoods, the stripes. The only Barstow configs that get that treatment are the special editions.
Obviously I'm not saying that the Gavril lineup should have copies of the real life performance configs, I just think the current RS configs are visually underwhelming and there's plenty of historical precident to add something above the RS with more aggressive styling, and more visual options in general. If it's going to happen, it would be appropriate to see alongside the Bluebuck's release. Either way, the Barstow and Bluebuck should share a performance package, and I would like to see the Barstow get something higher than the RS without getting into full on special edition like the Lancehead/Tracksport/Kingsnake all are.
Spoiler: Barstow Specific rant
I complain a lot that the current drag cars seem to be a mash up of classes and I wish they were more realistic instead of just generic drag racing cars. Plymouth made about 50 factory drag racing Baracudas in 1968 for super stock regulations (speaking of Super Stock, the Bluebuck is perfect for that class). 7L Hemi, lightweight glass, fiberglass front fenders, hood scoop, stripped interior, and a "not street legal" sticker. I know Sox & Martin had a Barracuda matching this description, I'm not sure if it was factory or coincidentally built to the same specs. Either way, that would be a sensible replacement for the current drag car and a great option for graphics. Dodge gave the Dart the same treatment.
Below is a pic of my favorite 1960's muscle car upgrade option, Baldwin Motion Phase III Camaro. It looks like something I would've made in NFS Carbon when I was a kid, and I love that. Plus Baldwin was kinda crazy with their policy; they would build cars to go as fast in the 1/4 mile as the customer wanted. Shelby, Saleen and Roush all were a big part of making the Mustangs what they are today; Yenko and the COPO system made a lasting impression on the Camaro's, and this Baldwin Motion Performance car is just awesome. It would be nice to see Gavril and ETK get in house tuning companies, like Corse is for Autobello.
Another Baldwin Camaro, with beautiful readlines.
I always saw the Sport GM as an Impala SS and the normal GM models as Caprices. Wouldn't it make sense to transfer the SS/RS package to the GM?
Personally I would ideally like to see all the Gavril products sharing the names for performance options. Renaming the GM Sport to GM SS/RS/Whatever would be great, alongside a Bluebuck GM.
What about the Roamer and D-Series? Should the sport trims be renamed too?
I had a feeling you would ask that... Let me amend my statement to "Gavril products with historical precident for it"
I really meant just the passenger cars, not the truck based stuff, being that it's a completely different class. I wouldn't mind the name change, but I can't think of any vehicles that would give historical precidence for the same packages as the performance cars. I could take or leave a name change in general though. "Sport" is a bit of a lazy and silly name IMO, but it has historical precident for the Roamer in the Jeep XJ and contemporary 2 door Explorer. Sure it doesn't sound as cool as the GMC Typhoon/Syclone, but whatever.
*Petitions for T75 SS package*
Edit: I just learned that the Ford Ranger had a GT trim at one point, and in the late 90's - early 2000's had an EV... So, there's only one thing to do now.
*Petitions for an EV GT D-Series*
That's what I was thinking too. I didn't think we'd have a Roamer RS or something.
In the early 90s GM stuffed a 454 into a short bed 1/4 ton Silverado and called it an SS. There was also a Trailblazer SS, so renaming the D-Series/Roamer trim levels is not that far fetched. IMO they should add hood scoops and different bumpers (plastic for weight reduction?) to the Roamer because it would have made sense for the time period.
EDIT: Added some Motorweek reviews of both the 1990s Silverado SS:
and Trailblazer SS:
Ok, the Bluebuck is now officially cancelled. In fact, all cars will be removed, and instead, you'll just noclip around the maps. But they'll be really pretty maps! Hope you have a beefy SLI setup.
At least, this is what I have been led to believe by recent teasers (or lack thereof). Where is the Bluebuck?
.... being developed... if its not released, then it isnt ready. itll come, just need to be patient. cars take a really long time to implement realistically and accurately into the game. They arent going to half-assed release a car cause people are impatient.
What? The devs have stated that they have been optimizing the new maps so they run just as well as the old maps. And we don't know the current state of the Bluebuck, it might not be ready yet. They probably won't tease very much at all until just before it's released, like most vehicles. It's not even like all of these map improvements are delaying the release of your precious bubu, the vehicle design team and map design team are completely separate.
Is joak. Calm down. I was not demanding a release, I was wondering why it hasn't been teased more.
If they are going to change the look of the Roamer V8 Sport they should go for the Saleen XP8 route which is a tuned Ford Explorer with increased power, body kit, and stiffer suspension. So if anything the Roamer should be based on this.
Or the Trailblazer SS
Except the Trailblazer SS started in 2006 and the Roamer is a 90s SUV so it would better make sense for the XP8 as it started in 1998.
Honestly, I'd say, for the performance versions of the Grand Marshal:
Rename the Sport to RoadSport; make it available in both 4.5L and 5.5L configurations.
Above that, have two trims called Vigilante and Grand Magistrate with the D15 Sport's powered-up 5.5L. Vigilante is the pure-sport model with available manual transmission, tuned to be about as sharp as a stick-axle landship can be, intended as an American answer to German sport sedans. Grand Magistrate would be the sport/luxury model with a somewhat more stable suspension tune and automatic-only transmission.
Above that, TrackSport or Kingsnake as a limited edition with a supercharged 5.5L.
Could possibly call the Vigilante "TrackSport" instead and leave Kingsnake for the supercharged version.
With the D15, the problem is that the Custom Classic is already there (actually one of the most fun cars in the game to drive) and messes with the RoadSport/TrackSport progession. You could call the existing Sport model "RoadSport" but then it won't match the GM. Of course it already doesn't so whatever.
A combination of both would honestly look very good and probably be more fun to drive. The reason I stated the Trailblazer is because it's design always looked dated to me as if it were designed in the 1990s, and it is a bit more tame than the Saleen. If we were to get a slightly less absurd looking XP8 style bodykit for the Roamer it would be amazing IMO.
Also, i want a bluebuck monster truck.
Or like this?
Story time. Once I used the node grabber to frankenstein a '53 Special body to a D35 Pig frame. It was fun.
TBH, Once in awhile you will see project cars that are random bodies welded to Bronco frames, which is basically what I made. So I guess it wouldn't be all that weird. Still fairly weird though.
These are a bit too far fetched Imo but crash hard will maybe do the second one. : D