WIP Beta released 1991-1996 Chevrolet Caprice (Reworked)

Discussion in 'Land' started by MSX98FMDnB, May 6, 2023.

  1. SSRG

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    1. It’s called the repository
    2. It’s perfectly fine for a real life car to be there
     
  2. Lewhik

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    No, it is not. Copyright exists, and due to the repo being "official" and somehow the forums aren't, well, quite, you can't upload it there.
     
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  3. SSRG

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    Weird.
    I guess you’re right after all…
     
  4. Lewhik

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    It kinda is. It used to be allowed and there was for example an 50s Cadillac on there, but then that was forbidden
     
  5. ghost_cauli

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    Cough, Vertex, cough, Mistral, cough Automation cars, cough.

    Damnit, I must've gotten cold.
     
  6. Hasservern

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    Theres a reason why vertex and other thing allowed in the repo, because the model and everything were made by the modder who made it, so no copyright will strike it because tecjnically they own the model. You can also see the codename oldsfullsize mod only having one vehicle and its basically straight up delta 88 but rebadged, tho it has a pack in an external link down in the description to avoid brand copyright.

    So basically you can have 1:1 replica of a car and post it in the repo IF the model were owned by you (or you got permission from the model creator to post it in the repo) and rebranded to be lore friendly like the vertex.
     
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  7. Lewhik

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    I don't really get your point, sorry

    Automation and BeamNG have a official collaboration, if you mean that cars based on it are on the repo and thus might break copyright rules

    But what do you mean with the Mistral?
     
  8. ozirodrigues72

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    You can definitely have real cars in the repo they just can't have the real names or badges. Example, the prasu is clearly a supra also the 300bx I think it's called is a 300zx. Both identical to the real thing but without badges and a name change
     
  9. Lewhik

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    Well, yea, and that exactly makes it not fall under copyright or that sort of restrictions
     
  10. ghost_cauli

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    Which sounds like a non-issue. OP most likely has the permission to use this model (right? And even if not, I doubt carface80 would mind, the dude gives away his stuff left and right), and rebranding shouldn't take a lot either. About the oldsfullsize, the link alone could be a basis to fill a lawsuit. It doesn't really matter how you obtain it, the addon is still stored on BeamNG servers.


    If we're talking about copyrighting logos and, more importantly, names, then quite a lot of cars should be removed. I mean, just from the first page today: Cadillac Sixty Special, DMC DeLorean.

    Hirochi Mistral.
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    FPS Trapez
    1078px-FSO_1996r.jpg

    These two are the most blatant rebadges that come to my mind, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was more.

    So, tl;dr: the copyright argument is there pretty much only because otherwise people would flood the repo with converts from other games and sharing other gray-area assets. I doubt Chevrolet would actually sue BeamNG over some old car uploaded by a user (and while I'm not an expert and I don't speak legalese, the forums ToS puts liability for user-generated content on users).

    Tl;dr2: we're arguing about something that the author should decide on, lol.
     
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  11. Lewhik

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    Yeah they are, but they don't have any logos on them, nor names
     
  12. Lordlichi2006

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    They would sue
    If it's popular enough it might """""""tarnish""""""" Chevrolets reputation since it can be crashed,
    Forums are a gray area since they are hosted on beamng.com but the content is user created and mostly unregulated , so the fault lies on users. That's why there is a "taken down due to copywright complain" tag. But since the repo is directly in beamng (accessible in game) it counts as content of beamng, even if user made, therefore the devs would be liable for that.
    And even if blatant rebadges, they are not badged the original car brand so it's not a problem just like those shitty mobile games with random car names.
     
  13. ImJacksBrother

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    (edited)

    its my bad, i didnt see the message as it didnt show up
     
  14. SSRG

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    Dude.
    He’s not 11.
    He’s from the netherlands.
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    Do I ever feel like the bad guy writing this kind of trying-not-to-be-mean-but-still-slightly-being-unintentionally message?
    Yes.
    But I do respect the argument, that I must say.
     
  15. ImJacksBrother

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    thats weird, the last message that showed up was from the 18th from ghs129
     
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    Im not a modder but would this cabin filter thing help fix the chime sound appearing on the outside?
     
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    suspension seems really lose, if you do donuts and let off and on the gas the wheels actually shift side to side from the axle jumping around!
     
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  18. HeepXJ40

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    If you want, I have a junk LT1 from a 96 impala SS I can photoscan. This mod is absolutely beautiful but the engine model bothers me.
     
  19. Dylan Pascoe

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    is there a way to make a Michigan State Police Skin how would i do that! thank you
     
  20. JustOneCarGuy

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    Hot diggity dog!
    This rework is magnificent!
    I just stumbled upon this thread, glad to see that this mod is getting another chance at life! When I get home I will delete the old version and download the new! I love the 4th gen Caprice/Impala, right after the 3rd gen Camaro!
     
    #160 JustOneCarGuy, Sep 15, 2023
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