On Hold 1995 Ibishu Kashira (Gen 2) 3.1.2

shade-S · Oct 23, 2018

hope this gets the update out soon! really looking forward to it!

KozyKat · Oct 24, 2018

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So I was kinda going for a somewhat boxy look (at least boxier than like the first-gen Sienna), but I see what you mean about the newer Pessima. I looked at the dates though, and the new Pessima is actually quite a bit newer than I thought. The old one is 1988-1991, and the new one is 1996-2000. So there's like a weird gap between the two generations, which we can infer there was another generation of the Pessima. This is pretty close to the time period I was planning for this version of the Kashira (1994-1998ish), so theoretically the styling of the Kashira should be similar to that of the imaginary 1992-1995 Pessima. Since we don't actual know what this Pessima looks like, we can infer that it would be fairly similar to the Honda Accord from around the same time, since the Pessima shares a lot of visual cues with it.

So basically, I redid the front-end again, and based it somewhat off of the 1995 Accord:

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I also modified the front fascia a bit, and tied the grille parts into the colorable trim, and it looks reaaaaally nice now! (｡◝‿◜｡)

I see what you mean, the vertical taillights on a minivan is a very unusual design, but that's part of the reason I like it. It makes the Kashira a bit more unique than your average minivan. It also somewhat resembles the Honda Stepwgn, which I took a lot of visual and design cues from in this update.

The Kashira is kinda my take on a Stepwgn-esque vehicle. A practical, small-ish, minivan, that is also kinda sporty.

I mean, at this point, I've kinda changed so much that it's pretty much a new generation. The shape is still pretty similar, but that's not too unusual for different generations of the same car, and I'm probably going to be smoothing out the entire a-pillar area a bit (which is part of the reason I've been putting off fixing the other issues with it). I'm going to be redoing most of the interior, so that should look different as well. The standard taillights on the updated model look pretty similar to the old ones though, so that's kinda weird.

Overall, I still don't really know how this new version will fit in with the old one. Honestly, I'm kinda inclined to completely make this a new gen at this point, and upload it as a separate mod, but it's still kinda too similar to the old one to do that, I think. And I don't want to completely overwrite the old Kashira, but I may end up doing something like uploading it as a "legacy" version, and being like "hey, this is the old version of the mod. It doesn't really fit into the canon of the Kashira, but you can still download it, if you'd like!"

But yeah, I really don't know, haha. (๑>◡<๑)
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Looks great! I'm the owner of a 97 Accord, myself (Same as a 95, but the taillights are different and the Honda badge is on the grille. As well as an OBD II port.)

STEVIE_G4M1NG_YT · Oct 24, 2018

It's looking newer now, it almost looks more 2000s than 90s which I like!

Kueso · Oct 24, 2018

Re:Z_IA said: ↑

So I was kinda going for a somewhat boxy look (at least boxier than like the first-gen Sienna), but I see what you mean about the newer Pessima. I looked at the dates though, and the new Pessima is actually quite a bit newer than I thought. The old one is 1988-1991, and the new one is 1996-2000. So there's like a weird gap between the two generations, which we can infer there was another generation of the Pessima. This is pretty close to the time period I was planning for this version of the Kashira (1994-1998ish), so theoretically the styling of the Kashira should be similar to that of the imaginary 1992-1995 Pessima. Since we don't actual know what this Pessima looks like, we can infer that it would be fairly similar to the Honda Accord from around the same time, since the Pessima shares a lot of visual cues with it.

So basically, I redid the front-end again, and based it somewhat off of the 1995 Accord:

View attachment 480236 View attachment 480237

I also modified the front fascia a bit, and tied the grille parts into the colorable trim, and it looks reaaaaally nice now! (｡◝‿◜｡)

I see what you mean, the vertical taillights on a minivan is a very unusual design, but that's part of the reason I like it. It makes the Kashira a bit more unique than your average minivan. It also somewhat resembles the Honda Stepwgn, which I took a lot of visual and design cues from in this update.

The Kashira is kinda my take on a Stepwgn-esque vehicle. A practical, small-ish, minivan, that is also kinda sporty.

I mean, at this point, I've kinda changed so much that it's pretty much a new generation. The shape is still pretty similar, but that's not too unusual for different generations of the same car, and I'm probably going to be smoothing out the entire a-pillar area a bit (which is part of the reason I've been putting off fixing the other issues with it). I'm going to be redoing most of the interior, so that should look different as well. The standard taillights on the updated model look pretty similar to the old ones though, so that's kinda weird.

Overall, I still don't really know how this new version will fit in with the old one. Honestly, I'm kinda inclined to completely make this a new gen at this point, and upload it as a separate mod, but it's still kinda too similar to the old one to do that, I think. And I don't want to completely overwrite the old Kashira, but I may end up doing something like uploading it as a "legacy" version, and being like "hey, this is the old version of the mod. It doesn't really fit into the canon of the Kashira, but you can still download it, if you'd like!"

But yeah, I really don't know, haha. (๑>◡<๑)
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much
much better front end
I love how the grille mesh is bodycolored
It looks way better now

fivedollarlamp · Oct 24, 2018

Re:Z_IA said: ↑

So I was kinda going for a somewhat boxy look (at least boxier than like the first-gen Sienna), but I see what you mean about the newer Pessima. I looked at the dates though, and the new Pessima is actually quite a bit newer than I thought. The old one is 1988-1991, and the new one is 1996-2000. So there's like a weird gap between the two generations, which we can infer there was another generation of the Pessima. This is pretty close to the time period I was planning for this version of the Kashira (1994-1998ish), so theoretically the styling of the Kashira should be similar to that of the imaginary 1992-1995 Pessima. Since we don't actual know what this Pessima looks like, we can infer that it would be fairly similar to the Honda Accord from around the same time, since the Pessima shares a lot of visual cues with it.

So basically, I redid the front-end again, and based it somewhat off of the 1995 Accord:

View attachment 480236 View attachment 480237

I also modified the front fascia a bit, and tied the grille parts into the colorable trim, and it looks reaaaaally nice now! (｡◝‿◜｡)

I see what you mean, the vertical taillights on a minivan is a very unusual design, but that's part of the reason I like it. It makes the Kashira a bit more unique than your average minivan. It also somewhat resembles the Honda Stepwgn, which I took a lot of visual and design cues from in this update.

The Kashira is kinda my take on a Stepwgn-esque vehicle. A practical, small-ish, minivan, that is also kinda sporty.

I mean, at this point, I've kinda changed so much that it's pretty much a new generation. The shape is still pretty similar, but that's not too unusual for different generations of the same car, and I'm probably going to be smoothing out the entire a-pillar area a bit (which is part of the reason I've been putting off fixing the other issues with it). I'm going to be redoing most of the interior, so that should look different as well. The standard taillights on the updated model look pretty similar to the old ones though, so that's kinda weird.

Overall, I still don't really know how this new version will fit in with the old one. Honestly, I'm kinda inclined to completely make this a new gen at this point, and upload it as a separate mod, but it's still kinda too similar to the old one to do that, I think. And I don't want to completely overwrite the old Kashira, but I may end up doing something like uploading it as a "legacy" version, and being like "hey, this is the old version of the mod. It doesn't really fit into the canon of the Kashira, but you can still download it, if you'd like!"

But yeah, I really don't know, haha. (๑>◡<๑)
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Looking good. Awesome work!

zaruchen11 · Oct 24, 2018

I think that it is really neat and different that you are using a Honda Stepwgn as your reference. It's pretty original and its almost as if you are creating an actual vehicle rather than a mod for a game. Many attempts at a minivan, but sadly no one has succeeded as much as you have. And now a suggestion as an add-on rather than a fixed asset, maybe you could make options for the tail lights to have them go across and since you're already having fun with the design of them, possibly try a design that follow along the lines of a newer Stepwagon?

CarsRFun · Oct 24, 2018

zaruchen11 said: ↑

I think that it is really neat and different that you are using a Honda Stepwgn as your reference. It's pretty original and its almost as if you are creating an actual vehicle rather than a mod for a game. Many attempts at a minivan, but sadly no one has succeeded as much as you have. And now a suggestion as an add-on rather than a fixed asset, maybe you could make options for the tail lights to have them go across and since you're already having fun with the design of them, possibly try a design that follow along the lines of a newer Stepwagon?
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Oh god that looks hideous, please no.

2000ToyotaCorolla · Oct 24, 2018

Re:Z_IA said: ↑

So I was kinda going for a somewhat boxy look (at least boxier than like the first-gen Sienna), but I see what you mean about the newer Pessima. I looked at the dates though, and the new Pessima is actually quite a bit newer than I thought. The old one is 1988-1991, and the new one is 1996-2000. So there's like a weird gap between the two generations, which we can infer there was another generation of the Pessima. This is pretty close to the time period I was planning for this version of the Kashira (1994-1998ish), so theoretically the styling of the Kashira should be similar to that of the imaginary 1992-1995 Pessima. Since we don't actual know what this Pessima looks like, we can infer that it would be fairly similar to the Honda Accord from around the same time, since the Pessima shares a lot of visual cues with it.

So basically, I redid the front-end again, and based it somewhat off of the 1995 Accord:

View attachment 480236 View attachment 480237

I also modified the front fascia a bit, and tied the grille parts into the colorable trim, and it looks reaaaaally nice now! (｡◝‿◜｡)

I see what you mean, the vertical taillights on a minivan is a very unusual design, but that's part of the reason I like it. It makes the Kashira a bit more unique than your average minivan. It also somewhat resembles the Honda Stepwgn, which I took a lot of visual and design cues from in this update.

The Kashira is kinda my take on a Stepwgn-esque vehicle. A practical, small-ish, minivan, that is also kinda sporty.

I mean, at this point, I've kinda changed so much that it's pretty much a new generation. The shape is still pretty similar, but that's not too unusual for different generations of the same car, and I'm probably going to be smoothing out the entire a-pillar area a bit (which is part of the reason I've been putting off fixing the other issues with it). I'm going to be redoing most of the interior, so that should look different as well. The standard taillights on the updated model look pretty similar to the old ones though, so that's kinda weird.

Overall, I still don't really know how this new version will fit in with the old one. Honestly, I'm kinda inclined to completely make this a new gen at this point, and upload it as a separate mod, but it's still kinda too similar to the old one to do that, I think. And I don't want to completely overwrite the old Kashira, but I may end up doing something like uploading it as a "legacy" version, and being like "hey, this is the old version of the mod. It doesn't really fit into the canon of the Kashira, but you can still download it, if you'd like!"

But yeah, I really don't know, haha. (๑>◡<๑)
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looks nice now before the headlight were so big it made it look like it was supposed to be a really small car

shade-S · Oct 24, 2018

CarsRFun said: ↑

Oh god that looks hideous, please no.
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Not exactly the body, he probably just means the tail-lights, which are kinda cool tbh

SHOme1289 · Oct 24, 2018

actually, the inner portions of the tail lights on the tailgate look like they could be parts bin units from the early 2000s accord sedan (US)
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edit actually the inner part is a bit to short, the accord sedan lights are much longer. but obviously theres some familial design cues in those lights haha

Cutlass · Oct 25, 2018

Re:Z_IA said: ↑

So I was kinda going for a somewhat boxy look (at least boxier than like the first-gen Sienna), but I see what you mean about the newer Pessima. I looked at the dates though, and the new Pessima is actually quite a bit newer than I thought. The old one is 1988-1991, and the new one is 1996-2000. So there's like a weird gap between the two generations, which we can infer there was another generation of the Pessima. This is pretty close to the time period I was planning for this version of the Kashira (1994-1998ish), so theoretically the styling of the Kashira should be similar to that of the imaginary 1992-1995 Pessima. Since we don't actual know what this Pessima looks like, we can infer that it would be fairly similar to the Honda Accord from around the same time, since the Pessima shares a lot of visual cues with it.

So basically, I redid the front-end again, and based it somewhat off of the 1995 Accord:

View attachment 480236 View attachment 480237

I also modified the front fascia a bit, and tied the grille parts into the colorable trim, and it looks reaaaaally nice now! (｡◝‿◜｡)

I see what you mean, the vertical taillights on a minivan is a very unusual design, but that's part of the reason I like it. It makes the Kashira a bit more unique than your average minivan. It also somewhat resembles the Honda Stepwgn, which I took a lot of visual and design cues from in this update.

The Kashira is kinda my take on a Stepwgn-esque vehicle. A practical, small-ish, minivan, that is also kinda sporty.

I mean, at this point, I've kinda changed so much that it's pretty much a new generation. The shape is still pretty similar, but that's not too unusual for different generations of the same car, and I'm probably going to be smoothing out the entire a-pillar area a bit (which is part of the reason I've been putting off fixing the other issues with it). I'm going to be redoing most of the interior, so that should look different as well. The standard taillights on the updated model look pretty similar to the old ones though, so that's kinda weird.

Overall, I still don't really know how this new version will fit in with the old one. Honestly, I'm kinda inclined to completely make this a new gen at this point, and upload it as a separate mod, but it's still kinda too similar to the old one to do that, I think. And I don't want to completely overwrite the old Kashira, but I may end up doing something like uploading it as a "legacy" version, and being like "hey, this is the old version of the mod. It doesn't really fit into the canon of the Kashira, but you can still download it, if you'd like!"

But yeah, I really don't know, haha. (๑>◡<๑)
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sorry, but it looks, wworse.

ChromeAdders · Oct 25, 2018

I like the new front end a lot more, but I have to say I preferred the black grille over the body colored grille - maybe you could have the black grille as an option? That's just my opinion though, and it still looks good the way it is right now. Keep up the great work!

2000ToyotaCorolla · Oct 25, 2018

don't be so negative about the design if you are so mean the person making the car might quit and they can design the car however they want personally i think the vertical tail lights look good

SubaruSTI07™ · Oct 25, 2018

GALAXYGAMER said: ↑

don't be so negative about the design if you are so mean the person making the car might quit and they can design the car however they want personally i think the vertical tail lights look good
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I dont really like that design luckily Rezia is gonna make the original kashira design as a addon here in the discussion thread i believe.

SHOme1289 · Oct 25, 2018

i feel that it is quite an upgrade, i dunno what yall be smoking lol

Cutlass · Oct 25, 2018

im not really saying that, its more of constructive criticism.

SHOme1289 · Oct 25, 2018

thats not constructive, its an insult lol it would be constructive if you said it looked worse but i would suggest *XYZ*

SubaruSTI07™ · Oct 25, 2018

SHOme1289 said: ↑

thats not constructive, its an insult lol it would be constructive if you said it looked worse but i would suggest *XYZ*
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Its not an insult its an opinion.

Mr. Avanzato · Oct 25, 2018

The rear window section reminds me of a Toyota Liteace

2000ToyotaCorolla · Oct 25, 2018

SHOme1289 said: ↑

i feel that it is quite an upgrade, i dunno what yall be smoking lol
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hmm
OT the old kashira would be nice as an addon but it needs kinda polished
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Mr. Avanzato said: ↑

The rear window section reminds me of a Toyota Liteace

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that is the ugliest thing i have ever seen im my whole entire life

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