WIP Beta released A new *CITY* map - LOS INJURUS 2023-12-20

I don't even run traffic if I go in that area, that tunnel really is the killer for FPS on normal settings for me

 

Has anyone ever reported this?

 

Ive been subbed to this map for years and since the latest update, the map no longer shows up in my map list. It appears to be gone despite the fact that im still subbed to it. Attempts to redownload keep failing. not sure whats going on. Just reaches a point where it just stops. Cant play the map at all

 

I'm snowed in and stuck in the house. The main route to the highway and to the state route that goes to town is packed with solid snow / ice.
I doubt there will be church on Sunday pretty much anywhere except downtown (which I highly HIGHLY doubt I'll be able to get to).
I DO have supplies as we were able to get out on Thursday during the 35F heat-wave of sorts and get to town.
However, this week it snowed 6~10 inches on Monday-Tuesday. Then Thursday when it finally looked like it would thaw, it started raining, which froze, slowly started sleeting / freezing rain, then turned to snow - so you had an additional inch of snow on-top of a pure sheet of ice. Not to mention I just about completely fell on my rear-end in a parking lot at a shopping center. My elbows and arms stopped me in the door frame of the truck - thank goodness I keep my upper-body strength or my back would have gotten demolished from that.
Today it decided to snow all day, another inch maybe two depending on where you are. It just keeps coming, even when NOTHING is predicted! Turns out weather forecasts here are just a hint.
BUT that's okay because it will be 60F by the end of the week. It's going down to around 2F tonight, but the highs will be in the 60F range toward the end of next week for several days. Maybe this nastiness will all melt away by then. Still glad I grabbed six cases of water on Sunday on the way back from church. Didn't think I'd need them all but got them anyways. That put some hurtin' my back.

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Got a building built in the modeler, it's almost perfect though a few seams don't line up perfectly (not my fault, I'm working to fix it, though most of it is cleared when vertices are joined at end-of-process).
Getting another kit (late 19th-century warehouse kit this time) textured who's texturing was completely trash, had to do it from the get-go / clean-slate. Grey areas to get trim textured and window textures, and bricks are still 2x too large but this might not get this brick texture by the time this is done (it needs a structural brick texture not a facade brick texture, one where the inner/outer courses tie together).
Low-res pictures don't really do it justice, but at-least you'll have an idea of what I'm doing here.
Due to being snowed in, I'll still take any bug reports y'all send my way for a few more days. So happy bug-hunting, try not to get munched as some of the bugs are pretty bad.
Getting munched is bad, mmm-kay? Please report cases of unlawful nibbling here in the forum thread.
--That is all for now. Hope you're not stuck* in the house like I am.

*OK not totally stuck, but no sane person is going to go out on this skating-rink excuse-for-a-road if life doesn't depend on it and then some. Even in 4x4 mode in the truck it's really sketchy at 20mph max, as it gets no plowing or treatment. I could get my car out, but I doubt it'll make it back up the driveway without some crazy rally-car driving on my behalf. I've done it before but not this year, just going to pass on that this time around. Plus I try to protect it from road-salts which are used on the state-owned roads, those which enjoy eating little 20-year-old Toyota's like mine for breakfast.
Good thing some strict December / January budgeting on my part allowed me to grab some cheap games on sale at the end of the Steam sale. I will have a bit of time to play them now being stuck in here, when not mapping/modeling and not fixing my (of-course something's-always-broken) house. We have plenty of supplies here and will be good for at-least another two weeks if needed, and I made well sure of that. Hopefully the only thing we run out of is meeces (mice, the organic and very-much-alive variety).

 

Going to try and figure that out. Don't know why it's an FPS killer, I don't get any slowdown at all there even when I had the 8gb card. Consider setting TEXTURE DETAIL one setting lower and restarting the game, then trying again and see if it helps. If it helps, you've hit a VRAM issue.

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Nope, no one has reported that. Where's that one at?

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You can manually download this file, then place it in your beamng drive user folder in a MODS folder. You'll likely have to make this folder. You'll know it's the right place to put the mods folder because there will be a beamng dot log file right there and a few other folders. it's be like beamng.drive\0.31\mods or something like that. Again, you'll have to make a mods folder and put the downloaded map (and any other mods you have to manually download) into this.
*OR*
You can take and drag the levels folder from the map zip and put it in beamng.drive\0.31\ folder itself, forgoing the mods folder creation entirely. Keep in mind that these files you extract will override any downloaded updates to the map in ZIP format in the future (whether it breaks the map or not) until you delete them. So keep them until you see a good update worth downloading, and then remove the folder you extracted this go-around and replace it with the new one. Look up how to find your user folder if you cannot do so upon reading this. It's usually within the users/YOUR LOGIN NAME/appdata/local/beamng.drive location. The APPDATA folder is hidden, so you may have to add this in the address bar yourself in file manager explorer. FWIW I moved my user folder back to my documents where it belongs and I can find it, and you can do this too by editing beamng ini file inside your game installation folder I believe (it's somewhere rather easy to find in there!). You'll have to manually copy your stuff over to the new folder, though, else losing your custom player-created vehicle configs and also re-download *EVERYTHING* mods-wise.
I hope this helps, sorry I can't be more concise / precise about these steps. My brain isn't 100% at the moment... now where'd I put the floor?

 

I was slightly drunk when I found it, so I will need to find it again, once I do, I will give you exact co-ordinates to help out a bit more since, if I recall correctly, it is out of the way a lot.
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I agree with this. A mall would be perfect here!

I'd love to be able to drive a Wigeon inside the mall, however that may take a long time to model the whole thing, and may not even be worth it, considering the size of the map, and how much there is to do on it.

2. I've located a different stop light that appears to also be slightly out of alignment

X: 1427.9161
Y: 5817.3833
Z: 459.0012

I am unable to locate the stop light merging itself into the ground sadly. When I do find it, Co-ordinates will be posted

3. This whole intersection, the stop lights are all over some of the poles lol


4. These stop signs seem very out of place here.

 

1.) Will have to see what the Wigeon even is (never used it yet!) when I fire up the game later. I sometimes add in notes about what might go where like the 'mall?' remark so I don't forget, and to let others have a say if they think something will/won't work there, and so they know what might be coming up. Fitting bigger things into the abandoned mall isn't out of the question entirely.
2.) Will make a note about the stop light. Will keep an eye out for the other one.
3.) That intersection is an oddball because of the height difference and visibility with the train tracks. Don't get trucks stuck on the tracks, it's very likely and a low-boy is definitely out.
4.) The stop signs predated the light and I forgot to remove them, needs only a yield sign on the right-turn lane.
Thanks for the reports!
"Slightly drunk" ... Yes I used to have those days, before my BeamNG days. I quit drinking about 7~8 years ago at some point, just had enough of the whole deal; plus when I started taking meds for physical issues (blood pressure, dizzy spells, nerve issues galore, chronic severe joint pain/inflammation, migraines, back is toast) it wouldn't have been smart to drink on-top of that. As long as you're home and you're only driving in the game it's all good though, you do you. Gotta enjoy life somehow; otherwise, what's living? I only miss my shot or two of the egg-nog liquor I used to get around Christmas time, that's about it.
Just make sure to stay alive, we don't want to lose anyone here.
--Cheers!
non-obligatory stuffs below
If anyone wants to know some of the stuff I end up listening to (rabbit hole of links sample) when modeling or mapping, since I don't care much for modern music...

Songs are modeled after Yuzo Koshiro's work on Revenge of Shinobi for the Genesis/Megadrive, which had a very distinctive sound (he also did Streets of Rage 1/2, some of the Ys series music, Super Adventure Island 1/2 on SNES and others my hobbled-but-sober brain can't bring up at the moment). There's a literal ton of stuff like this on Youtube, so don't hesitate to look around.
I have no love for Auto-tune music that the current generation seems infatuated with, or the monotone trash rap* that makes "Lady from Ipanema" look (sound?) good; so this will do for the moment.
*...and this comes from someone who absolutely LOVED Notorious B.I.G.'s music when that stuff first got around in the mid/late 90's. After Biggy died there was next to no good rap left.

 

I refuse to touch any form of automotive access when I know I will be drinking, But me and my friend were curious if we would be able to handle cars while intoxicated. The answer was no

1. The wigeon is a cheese wedge. Best way I can describe it. They gave it a 4 wheel version, but its a 3 wheeler Fun little go-cart though
2. I did manage to find the other one again! I know where it is, I will get the co-ordinates as soon as I load up the game.
3. I don't remember exactly what I was referring to, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be related to the stop light facing a non-road. I'm going to double check and say for sure soon.
4. That is completely understandable, and relatable lol
I have certain disabilities that also effect my memory, so forgetting stuff when working on projects, especially large scale projects such as a large map, it's bound to happen that things will be forgotten. I forgot to remove a tree from the middle of the road last night, drove full speed into it when testing the new roads on my own map project. I'm a steering wheel user with a G29, upgraded gear train and some other aftermarket mods, so with Force Feedback, it sure did scare me lol

Random rabbit holes are usually always interesting. For some reason, I get stuck falling down the same rabbit holes as some of my friends, and it turns into a night of just, whatever happens, happens. Lots of fun usually
I don't really have a solid music preference, I tend to listen to anything that even remotely sounds good to me. Even random throw together beats I make in FL Studio. Sometimes I'll set spotify to play whatever, then add the ones I find myself vibing to he most, into one of my many playlists lol
I love having some form of background noise, be it music, a random youtube video, or the sounds of my PC fans shredding the air just to keep my CPU chilly enough to render some of the insane crap I find myself doing.
Textures are fun to mess with, however my GPU only has 8GB VRAM, so I am slightly limited in the resolution of textures I can use, but that doesn't stop me. 16384x16384 road texture? Hell yeah! Realism. Lmao
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Better image of the traffic light location.


Coordinates are:
X: 5250.8574
Y: -447.6404
Z: 293.4309
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ADHD Moment, I fixed it

 

Wigeon = sawed-off Pigeon with better rear suspension and a wedgy Bond Bug sports car body.

 

Thanks for the location, I know exactly where that's at now. 10/10 That's just a crosswalk light for the most part, even though there's no crosswalks there at this point. Still needs to be fixed.
Cheese Wedge! I remember seeing that in one of the new-feature videos sometime in the last year or two. I will have to check it out. I don't get to play with many of the new features, and honestly sometimes that even includes new map features (that can - and will - benefit this map project) like smart traffic lights or parked vehicles when traffic is on.
Disability that affects memory absolutely sucks. It's one of the worst ones you can have, especially if you do not live alone, or for kids that have to answer to someone (especially in undiagnosed cases, in which others can cause even more lasting mental issues by constantly scolding the person with the undiagnosed memory-function-disability).
So know one thing, you'll never get scolded for forgetting something or taking a little longer in this thread by my; it's a way of life I've learned to just accept for a long time now - especially the last 2+ years that it's been extremely bad memory-wise. I'm starting to work around it though and figure out 'cheats' in my own brain with ways to still be able to remember things... it's not easy though.
8GB GPU is plenty, just keep it on medium textures for now to keep things smooth 100% of the time, otherwise you will go over the 8gb limit sooner or later. There's not nearly as much difference from high to medium as medium to low. Don't feel you need to upgrade already, but then again if funds allow for the purchase of a used 12gb or 16gb Radeon card or a new 4060 Ti 16gb model in the future *DO NOT* pass up a good deal here. Things are always going to get more complicated and requirements will go up, but I'm trying not to out-pace the majority of folks here on medium settings. Keep in mind this is MEDIUM TEXTURE DETAIL and not MODEL or MESH DETAIL levels, leave those mesh details maxed out as this map predates that option being available to end-users, and lowering it will make things ugly fast (or make things outright disappear sooner than they should!).
I wish VRAM wasn't an issue. I wish we weren't stuck with 8gb on a majority of (even new!) consumer cards, rarely getting a 12gb or 16gb under 600$ except some of the AMD options (which are very valid, especially the 6700xt). It's so hard to fit everything into 8gb of GPU memory (VRAM). Sure I *CAN* do it, but it's a struggle, and a lot of things need to share textures; but again it CAN be done. Still, as I stated before, this is a project still in production which will be finished in time to come, in the future, when things are better. So if you folks can only run MEDIUM textures, keep in mind you are the majority of folks I designed this map project for, and you are 110% fine. Do not feel compelled to upgrade just for this map, just because this map wants 9 or 10GB of VRAM when you only have 8GB. This map will likely require 16GB VRAM when it's done or reasonably close to that, though still running it with a 12GB GPU is not out of the question (and certainly works right now!).
When this map is closer to completion (no firm date, not even close to being able to give one right now), there will be a 'Los SPUDurus' version for 'Potato PC's' and those who don't want to get great balls of fire while using this on their laptop on-the-go. The potato version will require less VRAM and might lose a little model diversity in the name of being able to run better with less hardware.
Nothing like driving straight on into a tree to bring you back to reality really quick. Good thing it was in a video game. And I thought my (non-colliding) bush-in-the-road (tm) was bad. I've had it happen with the stop light poles more than once though, those suckers will jump right out infront of you at the last minute. Again, glad it was just in a video game.
@NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck Yeah I think between you and the other nice person who mentioned CHEESE WEDGE, I think I am getting the idea of what it is now. I will totally have to check it out.

That is all for the moment, just thought I'd check this thread before getting to the rest of my daily dealings after waking up waaaaay too early.

 

It definitely is a struggle. I have taken to leaving notepad or even sticky notes all over my desk just to remember the less important stuff, or stuff I think I will forget about. So far, I have a collection of about 35 sticky notes that have things written on them that I don't even remember writing lol
It also doesn't help that I was never properly diagnosed with any sort of disability until after I turned 21 I'm 23 now, and so far, found out why I was struggling in school lol

My RTX 3070 TI chugging along, rendering dual 4k displays and maintaining 60FPS the majority of the time when roaming around Los Injurus, I don't see the need to upgrade, but sometimes I wish I could just squeeze a little bit more performance out of my current hardware. I also refuse to touch graphics settings in a lot of games since I will forget that I adjusted it and wonder why the game looks like PS2 GTA 3 lol
I do have an RX6700XT that I got from a giveaway, still in the box, unused. I could use that, but at the same time, I have heard so many struggles about the drivers and how often my friend, who has a 6900XT, experiences BSoD daily. Kind of makes me shy away from using it unfortunately.

As someone from Mountain timezone, I came to stare at the forums like I usually do before going to lay down, to attempt sleep again. It's now 4:07AM at the time of writing this, and only the 4th time i've woken up from sleep for seemingly no reason.
Either way, I wish you a great day Bob and anyone else who wants to be apart of my wish for great day There's enough to go around

 

Tell me about it. We had to replace the bumper on my truck this year because it had large holes in it. Luckily the rest of the truck is undercoated so we didn’t have holes in the floor.

 

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*The 6700xt has more VRAM (I believe 3070 Ti still has 8gb?) but is less powerful in raster performance and ray-tracing performance.
BSOD's might be between-keyboard-and-chair issue (no offense but it happens more than not - even to me) more than AMD GPU driver issue. I never had BSODs with my Pitcairn core card (7850 2gb), ever. I did have issues specifically on Windows 10 with my Polaris (RX 480 8gb) card and the core-clock going too high (but never on Windows 7) causing a hitching or display driver restart issue. I lowered core clock by 25~40mhz and it went away - completely - like it never happened.
*Have your friend run display driver uninstaller, and eradicate everything AFTER downloading a new non-beta edition of the driver, but before installing the new updated version. You can get display driver uninstaller from the Guru3D website under downloads > utilities. Have him then install afterburner and keep an eye on what the card is clocking in at. It's possible the overspeed on the card core wasn't limited to my Polaris and could be an undiagnosed issue. He/she should also post on AMD forums and give as much detail as possible. If it's with the Vulkan renderer and BeamNG however, I would caution against using it. I've had Vulkan mode on this game-engine completely hard-lock this machine, that is otherwise stable (I only use Studio-ready drivers!).
*The AMD drivers and NVidia drivers for graphics cards (iGPU & dGPU 'add-in cards') are considered about even in terms of bugs and stability. Each has it's pros and cons. The AMD card is less expensive and generally has more VRAM so you don't have to upgrade as often, but the Nvidia card has more cutting-edge features and sometimes more developer support for things like RT and DLSS.
It all depends what is your priority - to just run what you want to run at acceptable FPS and not have to mess with upgrading as often - or to spend a ton for the absolute best image / render quality. There really is no right or wrong answer and I can't personally take sides.
*I would hang onto that 3070 Ti unless you see that your going over your VRAM budget and then try out that Rx 6700 xt to see if it helps you any. If it doesn't, you can always sell it as 'open box'. We haven't (we being a 'gaming community' here) quite gone over the precipice that is the complete fouling of the viability of 8gb or even 6gb cards. 3 or 4gb cards are a bit long in the tooth but still serviceable for medium details (at-least) for the majority of modern games released in the last 3 years.
By contrast in 10/2016 I was hitting the limits of 4gb over here when working on Roane County - on a brand new 4gb RX 480 I got from a local store. I immediately returned it (plus it had a fan rattle), and got the 8gb variant for an additional 26$ on a 250$ price. Money well spent - the 4gb model was 246$, which was good at the time - the very beginning of a crypto-gpu-buying-boom mind you - so grabbing the 8gb card for an addition 10% of the price to have double the VRAM was a really good move here.
So hang onto that 3070 Ti card for a while, it's going to be a long time before that card isn't powerful enough to run decent gaming for you, even if you have to do it at dual or single 1440p on medium settings a few years out. That's perfectly serviceable in my book, especially if you're not creating content (where you almost have to work at max settings to make things work). You certainly won't get shade from me on it, in-fact I might mention I respect folks quite a bit that hang onto their machines a while. This machine will be 5 years old this summer and I have absolutely positively no plans on replacing it in the next few years, sans managing to actually kill it somehow. Things aren't like they used-to-be back in the single-core days when processors only did one thing at a time, computers can go even 8 years and still be viable. My 10 year old (almost) Haswell i7 4790k machine that sits getting dusty (when my niece doesn't use it for Minecraft) for most of the time still runs this game fine; albeit not at max graphics settings, but I was still happy to use it in 2020 when I smoked the ASRock motherboard out in this one (through no fault of my own) until I got around to fixing it two weeks later with an Asus motherboard.
Besides, prices on new mid-tier cards have no choice but to go down some, especially after the luke-warm reception that Nvidia's 12gb 4070 models have received in the last week or so. People aren't interested in a 600~800$ GPU with 12gb VRAM when they can get one for under half that from AMD (albeit a little less powerful, but still, it's half the price for a 6700xt and it's hard to ignore). I know I wouldn't pay that when I can score a used 3090 for that with DOUBLE that amount of VRAM, or a modest AMD card with 16gb for quite a bit less. Price talks, but not nearly as loudly as not having to spend it in the first place, because you're satisfied with what you have. So if you're satisfied, that's about all that matters regardless of how many times I preach the VRAM rhetoric over here...
...and I mean that!
*Tell your friend to find the program WHOCRASHED on the internet, it should be a free download devoid of spyware (if you download it from the author's website), and it'll help narrow down if it's a driver causing the BSOD, or if it's a system issue itself (it could be processor instability, or it could be power supply or even memory related - those last two causing all sorts of weird but different errors and different things crashing). There's a lot more to computers than just installing the driver and running games unfortunately, something the 'PC Master Race' doesn't like to mention quite so often.
I wish you the best with sleep. I didn't say this out loud, but consider asking your doctor about something to help you sleep. Just make sure you can still get up if there is an emergency. Above all, without a doubt, if you remember one thing I say is 'Be YOU! and don't be anyone else but YOU!' Be happy with you and enjoy your life for it's the only way you know how live, and if others don't like it or anything about it (provided you go about thing the legal way) then they can stay in their house and hide from the reality that they cannot - but secretly so desperately desire to - control.
*Oh, and yes, I do keep two files with lots of little notes and DO back them up. I can't even begin to say what it's like keeping track of 100's / 1000's / 10,000's of different assets from different places all with licenses and different sources etc, but I manage somehow. That somehow is with LOTS AND LOTS of little notes. If someone else ever had to take over this project, I just hope they pray. A Lot. Thankfully, I'm working diligently if intermittently a bit when health doesn't serve me well enough, to make sure that doesn't have to happen. Los Injurus development continues as always.

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That book out of the way...

Salt is the bane of not only your vehicle, but American infrastructure in general. In Boston they just had to close a huge bridge that carried 5 lanes of traffic one way (and luckily a newer bridge is next to it, but dropping 11 freeway lanes down to 6 is less than ideal). In another city, a forklift operator crashed down through a sidewalk, breaking something in his back to which he fully healed from, and in other portions of the country it's eating our vehicles alive. They should have never used it in place of sand or cinders, even if it means a little more ice. I'd sooner slide on a little ice or have to drive a few MPH slower, than to end up in the mess of one of those bridges collapsing into a pile of it's former self due to corrosion. Salt is the single biggest detriment. It even ate at the rebar (though was salt air from the sea and some water) to the Champlain Towers condo that collapsed when the pool deck (ground floor deck) collapsed due to sheer failure (columns detach from flooring) and the deck falling down distorted and displaced some columns (I called that when I saw it, I didn't need an engineering report to know what it was, but I digress having grown up in a concrete business AND being a bit of an infrastructure nerd myself).
Be aware that while undercoating is beneficial and has proven to be exactly that; undercoating can HIDE corrosion or leave pockets of space where corrosive liquids/solids can lay against steel framing or undercarriage components (brake lines, frame members, the floor pan, or other things) and corrode them out of sight, leaving you unaware of potential danger. So do inspect the vehicle very thoroughly underneath and don't let yourself be lulled into a panacea of complacency. It's still good to get it undercoated, and it does raise resale value AND extend the service life of the vehicle, especially in corrosive environments such as near the ocean or in winter-weather areas. Good to hear you keep an older vehicle running though, I'm all about that. I still see a lot of slab-sided Chevy's going down the road these days (the good models from 1987~1999 or so), but they don't salt as much down here - only on the numbered state and interstate routes. It took a whole week for the 7~10 inch snowstorm to melt off the road out-front and that's only because they plowed it a week after it snowed and did so again today. Can't wait to see the mess of pot-holes to join the chorus of voids already present in this road when I go out next - Swiss cheese move over! I'm going to be pleasantly surprised if there's even any pavement left, to be honest. Currently this is one of the worst roads in the county for the amount of traffic it gets, and it's going to be at-least until summer until it sees any decent repaving done to it.
Good luck and do visit them car washes often in winter, it is worth the price of entry if you love your vehicle.

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You know what, I just came here to post this stupid picture. I finally settled on (and finished window graphics for) the look of this new building kit I had to do all the UV's for. It's a sort-of factory-converted-to-loft-apartments (or condos) type of kit. These are everywhere these days, heck they even build new buildings to mimic this, since it's all the rage in the last 25~30 years. It's not like they manufacture much of anything here these days in the USA anyways (blame NAFTA circa 1990 or so). So residential conversion it is!
I think at some point I'll make a factory out of it / warehouse / whatever, but not yet. Maybe tomorrow I'll board it up and throw 10 megabytes worth of dirt on it and call it a factory. Who knows!
(note: to be transparent, this picture is concept and thus subject to change as always, but is a good idea of what's up-and-coming for Los Injurus - but the stupid captions in the picture are still worth a look if you are bored enough)

 

- I actually did use the 6700 XT for a bit, (using DDU after finding out how bad it can get when 2 separate drivers are installed lol) and I didn't see any noticeable increase in performance, however I did notice VRam usage going up steadily the closer I got to the tunnel by the airport with the 8k textures. I didn't notice frame loss until I was well into the tunnel, but then again, I am used to overworking my hardware, watching my game sit around 20-30FPS is quite normal to me, since I do push boundaries of the game's engine, and my hardware capabilities.

- I did tell my friend to use DDU, but he informed me he already has, but we were able to narrow down the issue. Turns out, his OS install was not completely working from the start. After reinstalling his OS, it seems to be working smoother, and he can use his hardware at its maximum potential. Brand new PC he built too, went with AMD CPU and GPU since the cost to performance was better over intel and Nvidia, amusingly.

- I love my 3070, it is only 8gb though, and probably doesnt help that I run dual 4k displays lol
I don't plan on parting with it for quite some time unless I get another free GPU that's better than it. It's an EVGA card, and EVGA is the brand I mainly trusted up until the whole issue with the 40 series and them not being able to do what they've always done I think. EVGA has never let me down, even when my GPU came DOA and refused to work, they took it back under warranty, and found it was actually dead, not by user error, but by manufacturing error. They didn't have the original card I paid for, so in turn sent me a better card at no extra cost. I got the FTW3 over the one with lower clock speed and no RGB goodness lol
I started out with an old AMD Phenom II 945 CPU back in 2009 when those were relevant, never had a single issue. It lasted 11 years with only 5 minor upgrades. Went from a GT315 to a GTS 450 eventually to a GTX 750 TI for graphics, RAM went from 6GB to 8GB shortly after beamNG was released into alpha back in like, 2012 iirc, and the power supply died once, so it was swapped from the original 450w PSU to a Thermaltake TR2 500W psu. All of those parts I still have, and still use as a server for when my friends and I want to hang out on BeamNG and cruise around.
I only upgraded from that PC because it would no longer run most of the games I play at the lowest settings. I think there were maybe 2 or 3 newer games that ran almost 40FPS, but thats on the lowest settings. I know there are less demanding games that I could, and do, play, however, it was time for an upgrade.
After 2 years of saving up, I managed to shell out $750 and got myself an AMD Ryzen 3 1300x on release, MSI B350 Gaming Plus, 16GB 2133mhz RAM, and carried the 750TI from my previous PC.
Eventually upgrading to an RX 570, the 4gb flavour, which was amazing. Slowly, over time, I learned more about PC hardware and upgraded my PC as I needed. I'm not the type to re-sell hardware that I can still use, so I still have all of my old hardware, which does get put to use every so often when I host a LAN party or similar for my small group of friends.

- I am a firm believer in putting your own personal health before anything, so I, as one person who won't make a difference in the masses, will not mind if you need a break for whatever reason. You deserve breaks, especially for all the work you're putting into Los Injurus. I've been following along with the development of the map since So-Cal Interstate, which I used to drive around on for HOURS on end. Loads of fun, and even more so now. I truly appreciate your work, and you've been the inspiration behind my desire to learn the terrain editor and actually begin developing a map of my own based around a certain area near to where I live, but not near enough that it identifies my location even remotely.
I never knew about WHOCRASHED before now, so I decided to check it out, and it's honestly pretty useful, even for my system, which I thought was very stable because it hasn't given me any troubles lol

I had to buy another external drive because my primary external storage drive became full of backups. I have pretty much every version of every project I have ever done, 3D models I haven't finished, Farming Simulator maps, BeamNG map testing stuff, and a ton of random pictures, all equalling to about 4TB of stuff. So I did the next best thing and bought a 5TB. Now it's about, 3TB free. XD
I have issues with disorganization, everything NEEDS to be in its own little corner of my life. My hard drives are labelled as their usage, and if something is out of place, I end up having a huge problem with it. It's mainly why I rarely let anyone use my PC for any reason. I don't trust people lol


Anyways, Keep up the amazing work, and I look forward to more updates!

 

Phenom II was a really good line from AMD, especially the unlocked Black Edition models and the ones that were down-binned for marketing purposes from the 6-core "Thuban" core IIRC models (the T-suffixed series). The FX line that came after was not only lack-luster out the gate, it just sucked. It supported newer instruction sets (SSE 4.2 I believe, among others), had a bit better scheduler, but didn't really get much else right and in-fact sometimes worsened performance. I owned an FX 6300 processor in my main computer. For about 3 weeks I tolerated it, until I was ready to throw the whole computer out the 2nd floor window... then I built the Haswell system and what a breath of fresh air that was (about the same difference going from intel Haswell i7 to Ryzen R7 or R9 3000 series).
Still, aside of unsupported instruction sets, Phenom II will live on for quite some time in web browsing and office work if users choose to tolerate somewhat longer page-load times or higher CPU use during decoding web streaming.
*My own retired-age mother was still using an Athlon II x2 system I built her in 2008, albeit with an upgrade to an SSD and some extra RAM to give it 4gb total (ddr2 mind you). Booted in 4 seconds from BIOS hand-off to the OS, but I built her a mostly-new machine I put together from extra parts I collected over the past year or more. The new system she got as a Christmas present ended up being:
-Phanteks mid-tower meshify (?) case with a window, I got it for 30$ or 35$ open-box but new locally back in 2019 but never used it.
-New old-stock Intel DH67 motherboard, don't ask me the me the specific model but it's one of the last ones intel made. I paid 60$ or so out of pocket but it's a solid board.
-Intel 3470 i5 chip I found in a computer in a garbage bin. Who 'throws away' a computer? 2x 4gb 1600mhz ddr3 sticks for 8gb in dual channel from a scrapped system.
-ZALMAN 8900 CNPS flat-orb down-draft cooler that was a real pain to mount but great at cooling. Got it for pennies on the dollar (28$ I think? maybe less, out of pocket expense). New-old-stock.
-HP 256GB Sata SSD left over from another build but unused, Some samsung DVD-RW drive that was a used-working pull from another scrapped-out system
-Some used-working Radeon 6770 series or 7550 series or something like that, 1gb VRAM, 10 years old & was free to me, so I threw it in so she can plug in her VGA screen (yup).
-Thermaltake 500/550w ATX PSU, 40$ plus tax out of pocket expense, but worth it. These seem like pretty solid units for the cost and don't 'feel cheap'. Would use again.
It's quite snappy and will do well to aid her in keeping the church book-keeping in check, along with checking email and other internet things (recipies, cat videos, bingo brawl videos).
I didn't spend project money on her new PC, it was personal out of pocket stuff for me, but she really, really, really needed a new computer. The old one has a case the bottom is rusting out of. Yes, her old computer is RUSTING OUT. I've never seen a computer do this, not to this degree. Surface rust yes, but this thing is scaling out on the bottom and it's eating through the case in spots or about to. Sheesh! She got her money's worth out of the old one.
*EVGA is a good company, my last GPU was from them and was a good unit that was well cooled and very well made. I knew some folks in the past personally that swore by them, even with the nvidia-chipset core-2-duo / core-2-quad motherboards (the dark days of SLi). While I'll pass on any chance of using another nvidia-chipset motherboard unless it's free, I do like EVGA's video boards and it's really a shame to see them go. I can only hope they come up with something new to make. The 'step-up' feature they had available to new buyers was very nice and just as unique.
*Glad to hear your friend found the issue with the Windows installation and was able to fix it. Sometimes you can fix WINDOWS with the following commands from the administrator-priviledge command-line:
chkdsk /f c:
Press Y and hit ENTER when asked for confirmation to do so upon restart, then restart the PC. Allow time for the disk-scan to process the raw data on the disk.
The machine will re-boot when completed, and upon next-boot verify the file structure (takes a second or two) and then boot into Windows, then restoring user control.
sfc /scannow
This restores system files when running a check if they are damaged. If it fixes some, it tells you; but if it cannot fix some, you may have to reinstall Windows to fix them if you do not know how to do so otherwise (such as with a pre-boot environment or a mini-10 installation on a USB drive).
YOU NEED to be Admin or equal-rank user of the PC in order to change system settings, so expect the usual pandering about User Account Control when you do so.
CHKDSK (check disk) will restore write performance and may help read performance on your SSD if you've had power loss or hardware issues / BSOD's causing system lock-up. Run CHKDSK any time you have a power failure after saving your work, and it'll keep your machine running full speed when disk access is going on. Otherwise Windows hardware access layer must double-check with every write operation with the backup file-bitmap (location data for all file chunks on the drive) that something is where it's supposed to be, which tanks write performance and may impact read performance (but not to the same degree). Check-disk is NOT a disk defrag program, that is different. You never need to (and should never) run a disk defrag program on an SSD of any kind, it's unnecessary and causes unneeded wear / heat on the SSD components. Only hard drives (spinning disks) benefit from defragmenter software, and only if there's lots of stuff changed on the disk often. Windows 10 is aware of this, and also Windows 11 is aware of this. Windows 8, 10, or 11 will NOT setup disk defrag to run on any SSD, but you might want to double check on Windows 7 for any user still running that. However, do keep running Check Disk periodically after unplanned shutdowns, power loss, BSOD's if you have them, etc, or once a month - whatever comes first. It'll keep your PC in ship-shape and your disk access speed / latency where it should be.
Labeling extra hard drives / backup drives is a SMART thing to do, especially when you're looking for something and you have a dozen drives to go through, and only one spare slot for it to go in to. Ugh.
I wish your friend (and you) the best, and only happy computering from here on out. This is mostly because unhappy computering sucks about as much as juggling angry house cats that haven't been declawed.

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I will also share a special tip to readers who get this far:
If you ever have a power loss or unplanned shutdown of the PC, and upon booting the PC the solid state drive is not detected or Windows does not boot and gives 'disk error' or 'no OS installed' messages, DO NOT FRET, you can do the following for a SATA SSD:
-Open the case of the PC and unhook the data (usually red, always the smaller of the two cables on the drive) cable for the drive but leave the power connected.
-Boot the PC and let it sit for 30 minutes or so.
-Turn the PC off for two minutes or so.
-Connect the data cable and replace the side panel temporarily (or leave it to the side for now)
-Turn on the PC and see if the PC boots as normal, if it does, replace your side panel carefully and go back to life.
-If the PC does not boot, repeat the part with disconnecting the data cable and then powering ON the PC for 30 minutes.
-Turn the PC off.
-Then reconnect the data cable and try to boot the PC again. It should work now and you can put your side panel back on if it does.
-If it does not work, you can try one more time (the 30 minutes thing), or you can go buy another SSD and mull reinstalling Windows, I hope you backed up your data recently.
-If your old dead SSD that you cannot seem to fix is still under warranty, it's a good idea to file for an RMA number on the manufacturer website and send it on in with the RMA number on the box in clear lettering (on multiple sides, too, stupid-proof = WIN).
Data cables only go on one way, they are keyed, as are the SATA power cables. Don't get them mixed up or try to force them on. They should fit snug but without a fuss.
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UNVERIFIED BIT OF KNOWLEDGE FOR M.2 NVME DRIVE USERS - it's difficult to hook one up without data access, so boot into bios for 30 minutes one or more times & let it sit there, and see if this gives a chance for the drive firmware to do the things it needs to do to become readable again. I haven't had time to test this on m.2 drives so maybe those others out there can verify it (others have said this works more than not!).
*Legal bits: The Bob nor BeamNG will be held liable if your computer, your house, or the whole Earth or any portion there-of goes kaboom (or anything else bad) because of the writings on this thread. Use at own risk! But if it's already broken, hey what's the risk at that point? You DO have insurance, right? If it's not broken, don't fix it, please please, DO NOT fix it.
Marvin Martian: Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering-Kaboom!!!

--I'll leave it at that and go enjoy my migraine in peace. It came on REAL quick so who knows what the weather has in-store or what the reason was, this time. Before I could take pills I was doing the spinnies like when my niece saw a cat on an office chair when she was much younger. She stopped doing that when at Ludicrous speed, kitty's dinner was painted all about, including upon her.

 

- I really enjoyed my Phenom II when it was still relevant. Used that thing everyday after school to game with my best friend, who I still game with almost 13 years later lol

- My mother had a few laptops ranging from Gateways to HPs that were all equally on the "potato" level of web browsing. I finally broke even and built her a decent PC out of parts I found laying around from whenever my father, myself, or anyone else in my family upgraded anything in our PCs.
She ended up with a very decent PC that she uses every day for streaming her TV shows and playing her wide variety (amazingly, not all of them are solitaire ) of games.
It's great to see that she enjoys using her PC. It is a little bit overkill in the specs side, but it doesn't run slow, that's for sure.
It carries a Ryzen 5 3600x, Asus B450M, 16GB 3000mhz RAM, 1TB NVMe, the Crucial branded one, so its fairly good, and a Corsair Spec-Delta with the tempered glass side panel. I also tossed a sort of rare odd GPU in it. It's a GTX 1050, but not an average 2GB model. I don't exactly remember what it is that makes it rare, but looking up the seria number, model code, or anything else returns almost nothing. It was given to me by someone I know, with no heat sink or any type of cooling. It is a GTX 1050, atleast that's what HWInfo reports, but it has 3GB Vram and no manufacturer. It's an interesting card, it works on NVidia's latest drivers, and has 3 DP ports for some reason. Only DP ports, so I had to find a DP to HDMI adapter.
Most of the used PCs I have collected were basically discarded, or bought fromn auctions. They all carry 4th to 7th gen Intel CPUs, with the best one being the I7 7700K in a Lenovo ThinkStation. That thing also came with 64GB RAM for some reason. I don't remember where it came from, but it was a hell of a find.

- I used the step-up feature with an EVGA power supply at one point. Best decision ever, Ended up buying another identical power supply later on. Lol

- Funny enough, that's the exact process we used to figure out the Windows install was irrepairable lol

- I've experienced both unhappy computing, and unhappy non-declawed cats terrorizing the household. Both of which are equally as terrible lol

- I love modern hardware, especially with MSI (not sure about other brands) on their higher end boards. I have an MSI MAG X570S, and recently had a power loss during an update. I came prepared with a UPS and all, but turns out my UPS was just terrible at powering my PC, home network, and my monitors all at once. PC didn't have enough power, so it went into a soft off state, where hard drive activity was basically paused, and the system was in limbo until the power came back on fully. It just resumed the update as per usual and nothing bad has happened. Then I upgraded to windows 11. What a nightmare to get used to. Now that I am used to it, it's actually pretty okay if I am honest. There are still some minor issues I notice every now and again, but that's just down to personal preference.

I almost fell off my chair with the fine print! I needed that laugh, thank you

I also wish you the best, and hope you feel better soon. Migraines suck, and as someone who deals with constant headaches, I can relate.
For now, I am going to go back to making engines fit in cars that probably should never have had said engine in the first place. (SBR8, aka 5.0l V8 in an SBR4 for no reason, or my nifty Gavril 423 powered ETK K-series coupe, lol)

 

I just discovered this map, I play Beam on a bunch of different systems and monitor their performance, finally a map that beats the piss out of my system without any cars spawned.

i7 12700k @5.2ghz
32GB DDR5 4400
RTX 3090 24GB
1TB SN850x

Below videos were taken on Ultra settings at 4K








Basically I'm CPU limited, (which makes a good case for getting a 14900K)

I'm very thankful for my 3090 and its 24GB of VRAM, this is the first map i've been able to get 16GB of VRAM usage.



When I get a chance I'll run the same settings on my Stealth 13m (i9 13900h RTX 4060)

 

I have a 3950x Ryzen and a 3090 24gb and I'm hitting 16gb+ usage here, BUT I have a 3D modeler open and some 1~2gb of graphics use on my graphics program.

It's not going full speed at the moment as the card doesn't really hold back the system (especially with the game limited to 30fps with it not being in focus), you will find the map is limited by the core handling draw calls. Vulkan helps with this but is not 100% stable and may stutter here and there as assets are loaded in on-demand.
The map will require 16gb when things are maxed out, I'm trying not to go over this as it is about best-case scenario users will have 16gb cards - they're still few in number.
That said a user can score an RX 6800 16gb for dirt cheap compared to the cost of other cards these days, and an RX 6700/6750 12gb card for even cheaper if they're looking. There's also the 4060 Ti with more than 8gb if you look around, those aren't terribly priced but not exactly delivering 4k / multi-monitor game-play on everything at max settings.
Sad part is, I have many more GB's of graphics to put in this. So max settings might use these 24gb cards for all they're worth if I don't cut some corners somewhere (that hopefully few notice) with the GFX detail. Trying my best to keep max details at 16gb VRAM use though!
I mean, I've got 16k and 32k graphics I could put in (32k is the limit for directX file format for graphics), but that'd be insane & would require a card that will not exist for 5 years yet.
We'll get out of the 8gb VRAM rut one day, ONE DAY. Hopefully we're all still alive to talk about it and haven't passed-on due to old age.
THANK-YOU for the video and detailed infos. Yes, a faster-per-core CPU will help you on any DX11 rendered title where one core is maxed (with draw calls) and the rest of the cores aren't. Your core speed will directly translate into FPS improvement 1:1 if you get a processor that can go to around 6ghz. DX12 and Vulkan have multi-threaded draw call pipelines that help alleviate this bottleneck.
Cities Skylines 1 and 2, and part of Fallout 4 downtown and near the Corvega factory (roof especially) and even early Flight Sim versions have/had these limitations. There's only so much one core can do in an open world, but I'm doing my best to improve the FPS of this map as I go along. There's still plenty of 'strings to pull' when it comes to performance here thankfully.
The VRAM limits, sadly, are not as easy to get around; but I AM trying to work with the game devs on a method to change how the world renders at medium-long distance to better be able to handle what is in the immediate scene. This way the drivers can discard more assets per-scene to better focus on what renders close-at-hand and not (as much of) the stuff several blocks away.
This would be far from the first time the game-engine has been changed because of, or to help run my map(s) but it's a worth-while change and better aligns this game-engine with both what is standard today and what folks who make assets expect. Otherwise everything is going to be the same boring brick box a million times over and the backgrounds will repeat like a Hanna-Barberra cartoon from the 50's.

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I've just cued up some new purchased objects I got a while back so you might see me touching them up and fixing them etc, and then putting them along with a bunch of other things in the map soon.
While this means more textures, it also means more different objects to fill the map. There's a huge cue of over a dozen different buildings done to add into the map thus far and I'm well behind on getting them in (I focused on adding more road mileage to the map lately). The models will get there/done with soon though!
--That is all for the moment.
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Well glad I could make you laugh!
Careful with UPS systems, as if you go over the wattage for the system, you could damage it and cause a fire (or worse, if there's a lithium-ion battery in it). I had to carry a burning/smoking UPS system out of my 1st house back in the Pentium 4 days (and is probably what blew it up, those Pentium 4's being so power-hungry). It was a few years old though, so I'd give it that. I haven't had another one since due to that. But you be you - don't be afraid of them because of me. I just don't enjoy quickly diving under my desk to yank plugs out of things right quick and running out of the house with burning equipment. I've also had RAM on a Slot A (700mhz Pentium III equivalent) system catch fire about 20 years ago, but I still use computers. I blew that fire out as soon as I seen it, RAM stick wasn't seated well enough I found out, but it killed the board (short on the slot) when it happened.
Enjoy over-powering the cars. Could always use something that works with a older Pessima to make it go really really really fast, or something with a bunch more gears.
GTX 1050 graphics cards can have 2gb or 4gb (3GB is a CHINA-only model) of VRAM. If you have a 3GB model it likely filtered back from China after the video card supply recovered. There are certain models that were China-only for reasons of economic / demographic things like that. Still a good card though even if it's not that fast these days or that much VRAM, it could still run this map on LOW.
Finding a system with 64gb? I would love that. I paid over 250$ (I think with tax) for the 64GB that's in this PC right now and that's just enough memory to do what I need to do. I frequently hit the 45~50gb system RAM use mark regularly.
Guess that's all for right now. I hope. Don't need any more 'events' right now. Boring = good!

 

Over the last two or three days I've clocked no less than 5~6 hours just on this graphic, which will be used around the city.
I've still got to make it tile, but that is NOTHING compared to what's already been done so far.
It's an 8k x 4k graphic, and it'll get rotated 90 degrees when it gets ready to go in-game. Working on it this way is easier as this mouse has a side-scroller function built-in.
This took a lot of work, and I mean A LOT. It's still a bit 'tan' looking at the top but it'll get fixed if it bothers me enough or shows in the preview.
I will later add-in a small 'patch' graphic that matches this for when you need to delete curbs or remove the center line. Definitely 200% worth the work, though.
Added an up-close shot so you can see that, yes, this does have detail. The road itself is roughly fit for 6 lanes of traffic (3 per side) , though you could jam 7 total in there, if you really wanted to.

 

Being 8192x4096, I wonder what the performance impact would look like on GPUs with less than 8GB of VRam total.
Be interesting to see nonetheless, and I love detail, but definitely going to test it out on medium texture settings with a GPU that has 6GB, and 4GB respectively.