Yes, that entirely. I don't put release dates on things otherwise it makes me nuts. Nah no one's getting hostile, this comes up in every thread about a map or car, etc. The person who said 'WAIT' is likely just sick of seeing that, but again, not a crime in asking. You won't know if you don't ask. However, that is but a moot point, as even I don't know about release dates for this. There's a LOT of work and I might have 10~25% of the infrastructure put in, and a mere few % of the total buildings put in. This city will be *HUGE*, the urban area is not even the size of WCA yet though, so it's no-where close. I'm not upset by questions, I actually did say 'well if you folks have any questions, now's a good time to ask' or something along those lines. Just know that I can't always respond the same day, as when I get into things, I tend to stay focused for a while (no short attention span here), sometimes even forgoing meals, and so-forth, for longer than I should (9 hours or more at times, until my back makes it's wretched presence known anyways). It would be further along but I am doing optimizations first, so when I add more to the city, the draw calls do not go through the roof, leaving only the folks with i7 4xxx series CPU's at 4ghz or higher able to have a smooth ride (FPS-wise). I optimize, then add content, go back and optimize, add more content, and so forth. So if someone can't run it, wait one version, and it might be a lot better the next go-around. I just got to my computer after getting my yard done (it rained about 3 minutes after I finished, which has happened over a half-dozen times this summer), so I might have some progress later to post / depends how long the model's optimizations take. I will also be making some larger models combined from various road pieces, to cover larger sections for faster building and simpler rendering, when less customization/versatility is warranted. --That is all.