True, but freedom of mobility is a big one. Supposedly, one of the major tenets of technocracy is to use energy as currency, so suspect EVs as well. Not really sure what lead and the children would have to do with each other, but then I suppose that's par for course. In general, such emotive arguments need to be watched very carefully. Unfortunately, modern life is full of them. Certain words such as "children", "safety", "climate", "environment", and so forth elicit basically pre-programmed responses from a large segment of the developed world's population, automatically liking or disliking anything with a certain label attached to it without really thinking much about it. So any attempt to reverse the current disastrous course of society is guaranteed to have to fight through a thick and high wall of manufactured emotion - many decades' worth, in some cases - before it can start attacking real issues. This is the other thing a lot of people don't seem to realize. The shift from cars to robocars is going to be a deeper change than the shift from horses and bicycles to cars. In the previous shift, we simply upgraded speed, comfort, and carrying capacity. The shift to robocars will be a shift from actively "going somewhere" to passively "being taken somewhere". And if you think robocars will ever be immune to anything bad, from glitches to ad shoving to outright hijacking, then you really don't understand human or machine nature, especially when human nature is unfettered by morality. In the end, all this really serves to do is to illustrate why car culture is doomed. Car culture can be incredibly resilient to outside attack when it wants to be - the fact that it still exists in places like Japan, where a cultural philosophy of "never stand out" has pervaded for thousands of years, or California, where an engine swap is a convoluted process requiring direct involvement of bureaucrats, or Australia, where the nanny/ninny state is so well-established that a second burnout ticket can get your car confiscated and crushed, is proof of that. But today, it seems like car enthusiasts would rather side with the outside attacks than resist them. Question any of it - the ever-growing list of mandatory safety and pollution equipment, the byzantine mess of post-purchase modification regulations, the onerous inspection regimes, the overzealous policing, anything - and you are immediately accused of wanting people to die. Modern car enthusiasts want bicycles and pedestrians to have perpetual unlimited access to the best driving roads. They want mandatory reinspections after every upgrade. They want EVs to replace combustion engines, and robocars to replace manually-driven specimens of both, and they want the mandates and subsidies and lip-flappingly insane fuel-economy/emissions diktats which will speed this process along. They want the police to cuff and stuff anyone who dares to have any fun outside of a closed course. EVs are actually a great example. They are still incredibly compromised; even the fastest chargers are still hideously slow compared to a liquid refuel, and are still dependent on infrastructure which is not available everywhere and likely will not be for some time. But as long as the EV peddlers keep the sound bites coming, their many fans within car culture will ignore all that and expect everyone else to do the same, using the promises of elite-level or "future" EVs to paper over the technology's faults in the present. Because, again, they desperately want EVs to work, even though they destroy everything car culture used to celebrate. The sound and fury of a nasty race engine, the feeling of a butter-smooth double-clutch downshift, all of it replaced by the same passionless tinnitus whine and the same boring 1- or 2-speed transmission. Is that really what you want? So car culture is in a weird place. From the outside, it looks healthy, with forums and websites all over the place highlighting builds and big shows while the latest factory sports models throw down BEEG BEEG NAWMBERZ on the dyno, test track, and skid pad. But underneath, with the regulations that are on the horizon, from "speed limit assist" to ever-tougher emissions and safety standards, we are absolutely headed into another Automotive Dark Age like the one from about 1974-1986 - but maybe worse, because this time we have the technology to make a car truly anti-fun and the regulations to keep people from getting around it. Much of car culture is illegal in one way or another, and even that which always was is now enforced against much more harshly than it used to be. Tuneability and "unintentional sportiness" are effectively things of the past at this point, and aftermarket support for new cars isn't what it once was - again, blame the regulators. There are other signs too. If you were to make a list of the vehicles that carry social currency in the tuning scene, you'd find many of the same makes and models that had cachet 10 or 15 years ago. There have been new muscle cars from the Detroit Three, a couple of hot ones on the tuner side as well, but overall, car culture has stagnated badly. I have, however, seen evidence of unconventional older cars finally being accepted into car culture. On the muscle car side, sedans and wagons have started to find their way into a scene once dominated by coupes and convertibles. The RWD "post-muscle" cars of the 70s and 80s (more-door versions included) are seeing more use in drag racing and, occasionally, for street builds as well. The idea of subjecting an old pickup truck to a serious handling build isn't nearly as ludicrous as it would have once seemed. I've even seen evidence of rodded and cusomized Edsels - it's not common, but it does happen occasionally. Meanwhile, on the tuner side, I have... not much information because I usually pay more attention to the muscle side of things, but I did once see someone singing the praises of the XV10 Toyota Camry and its punchy, tuneable V6. On one hand, it's good that people are branching out and finding hidden gems, and who knows, maybe people will eventually come to respect the V6 J-body, but there's something dark underneath. What this says to me is that we've blown through most of the more desirable hot rods and tuners, with fewer unmodified survivors on the market and prices for good-condition specimens starting to increase, so people are scraping the bottom of the barrel in search of affordable base material - and coming up with cars like the Edsel, Camry, or random pickup truck/sedan/wagon which, in their time, were maligned or simply considered to be as far from fun to drive as it was possible to get. We can't keep picking the bones of days gone by forever. The Supras, Chevelles, E30s, and other objects of gearhead veneration are slowly running out, and they aren't really being replaced. But don't forget, if you see a problem with any of this, it automatically means you want people to die in car wrecks while having pollution-induced asthma attacks!