Audio Feedback Thread

Well, there is a vehicle me and @EcoNadder77 might be working on that utilizes Siren 12, but it's far too early to say for certain...at least right now. I'm sorry Fera, but you'll have to wait.

 

I'm having problems trying to mod the engine starter sounds. I've already modified starter_start.ogg and starter_loop.ogg files but they don't work ingame. I can still hear the stock sound. It was working fine before the 0.12 update.
They're placed like this. What I'm doing wrong?

Code:

"art\/sound\engine_starter\/starter_start.ogg",
            "art\/sound\engine_starter\/starter_start2.ogg",
            "art\/sound\engine_starter\/starter_loop.ogg",
            "art\/sound\engine_starter\/starter_loop2.ogg",

 

Well you have double slashes in many of the paths, fix that and it should work.

 

I like all the new sounds bar the new crash sound or metal deform sound, to me it just sounds like the car hits a wall and suddenly becomes a piece of crinkling tinfoil I wouldn't mind too much if it was at very slow speeds but it sound quite odd when crashing a car at over 200 mph.
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However it could just be preference.

 

honestly the sound is my favorite part of the update

 

I also preferred the old crash sounds. The new ones sound short & muffled. Even the engines now sound kind of muffled. Are these lower-quality audio files compared to the old ones? I remember the old crash sound was loud, crisp and stereo-like.

 

With the new sounds I also feel that the Barstow and Moonhawk's idle are too quiet. You can barely hear it, especially when coasting on dirt roads (all you hear is the road noise). Those old muscle cars should have fairly loud idle. But it sounds like the big block engine now has the same volume as the others, so that's good.

 

The sounds from automation cars end up being rediculously quiet. A straight piped i3 sounds wisper quiet next to a d series.

 

First of all i love the new skidding sound, and the crash sounds are just fantastic so far, good job. For the future are there plans to add sounds for sliding on the roof or side, for rims rolling on the asphalt. And parts dragging on the ground like a bent frame or exaust pipes? Keep up the great work

 

And thank you for the quick reply
Im no coder myself, and the rim sound is not that important with the awesome deflated tire sound, but could it be done the same way?

 

@TDK here is another reference for you, this time inside view which based on my own experience gives very close to what you really hear, except lacking ton of bass of engine sound:



But there is more to it, this is kind and age of truck what you have ingame, 14 liter 444hp engine:


Quite a difference, but from latter loud exhaust note of the engine is also triggering recording devices volume adjustment, so levels what ear would hear could be quite different. Why not everyone can have a perfect recording studio with them?

Bass is then difficult subject, I'm using Koss porta pro headphones mostly, which are said to have too pronounced loudness effect, so not very optimal, can't really use my speakers and sub in an apartment to have proper levels. Anyway, lot of bass IRL truck is what you feel, it goes really low and from bottom end of hearing range upwards there is lots of it, but also below that. It must be a challenge to get that or any part of that replicated in game and then you probably need to balance it as people would start quickly complaining about truck in their gaming room

Anyway, bass and lower end is what I'm kinda missing a bit with current sounds, kind of bass that surrounds you but is not easily defined as a any kind of sound, it is like blanket of bass around you that you can kind of hear but more of acknowledge it is there.

Semi sound is really really close to this video though, that subtle turbo whine might be something that is louder IRL and was just not picked up by camera too well, but if I try to play video and BeamNG semi one after another, it is really really close, imo!

Recording device quality is just not best in that, misses bit of bass, has everything muffled and twisted, high frequencies seem to be kind of cut? Anyway one can get idea from it.

So between all this information, figuring out how to balance everything will not be easy, but I guess that it is to give better overall picture of the sound than just one external video.

Adding to challenge is fact that it is not known what mods trucks have. Straight pipes change sound a lot, much more than most videos will let one hear, turbo is loud and can be heard even at idle without exhaust, while modern quiet exhaust does not let much any of turbo's sound to escape. Older vehicles generally whistle more as exhausts are more open.

80's truck I drove a short time had whistle always there, you could hear throttle changes from change in whistle at steady speed, slight change in ground incline and slight change in throttle, whistle reacted to that. Road and wind noise as well as engine rumble overpowered sound at very small throttle, but at 80kph needed throttle was enough to spool thing up so it was audible again. It is very interesting soundscape.

Not sure if that helps or just adds to challenge, but though I share bit more thoughts on this.

 

As tire deflate sound is WIP as whole system, I believe there will be volume ramping implemented at some point?

It is really nice effect, but also I would like to point out that tire is not flat only at one sector of the tire, air always runs out of bottom and as tire rotates it still is at the bottom where air has escaped.

Currently location of escaped air is rotating with the tire.

Well just a thought I thought to share

 

I think it could be "attached" to the nodes, if a node hits the ground, it plays "the" sound, depending on the speed of a node and the force on the node(or just attach it to the node friction and material)
If you can code that into the game, it would work in all cases I think.

Anyways, I said it before but I really like the new sounds.

 

How we are supposed to keep brief of something we are passionate about? Impossible

They did 7.1 wrong, instead of surround sound, they should of added frequenzy channels, you would choose channel that sample plays, while speakers should have several elements connected of those different channels, so you could choose two 50Hz sounds playing trough two different elements, that would give bit more bandwidth, I guess we don't have much more today than Adlib days as it is still 2 speakers that sound has to work on.

Maybe I contact Creative, 4 channel 16.4 system could have 4 cylinder engine playing almost accurately, you can figure out how to record samples for that

I just share my thoughts and what I find, maybe sometimes it is useful, but don't feel required to address all points, I don't want to rob your time here!

Anyway, about low frequencies, there is a interesting study here, it is about cars, but it is mentioned that lorries have it louder:


http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0123835


This one has spectral analysis of semi truck sound, which might also be some of interesting:
http://www.adc40.org/presentations/winter2010/08PresentationTRBWinter2010.pdf

Not sure if I want that 1:1 realism though, my driving times have already left my left ear bit lacking, but though you might be interested to see some data