BeamNG on new AMD CPU's, will Ryzen run the game well enough ?

11 T75's got me 30ish FPS with the lowest settings

 

That is like 10 T-series in line driving over a miramar without dropping under 60fps or 75fps if monitor has that refresh rate?

For comparison i7-7600 (non K), I can do 8 x T75 with lowest settings 40ish fps, but if I add one more fps goes to 20ish, with 7 x T75 I had over 100fps if I recall it correctly now, adding eight did drop fps a lot and I would not say that this would run 8 really well. I guess same happens with Ryzen, but with 11th T75, so adding 4 more cores looks like it is +3 vehicles in this comparison?



Without more detailed analysis it is bit hard to say, but I would guess it is because of graphics thread in BeamNG running on single core, this could be figured out if Ryzen CPU cores would have less than 100% loading, but of course it can be other things too, .

I think that 0.9 might certainly be different in terms of performance, but I don't know if it is really possible to run graphics thread in several cores, synchronizing threads might become a nightmare real fast.

 

OH GOD I NEED TO CHANGE MY UNDERWEAR

 

wow! amd is alive)) i need to trash my 2600k.

 

Thats what i have read also.
RyZen is strong on minFPS which is more important than maxFPS.
Thanks for your Infos guys.

Do you use Win7 or Win10?
Did you deactivated SMT?
Using Win7 and deactivating SMT for now results in a great performance plus until patches are out for Win10 Scheduler and Game Patches for SMT

 

Do note that video was with i7-6700 non K version so no overclock at all, Ryzen will pull probably at least 3 more trailers.

Another thing I though is that there may be difference in how efficient Hyper Threading equivalent is in Ryzen.

Either way, I think Ryzen gives better performance for money than I7 Skylake or Kabylake when you want to run multiple vehicles, it might be even better in 0.9 version, but we will see about that in future.

With single vehicle, things are unclear with current data available, going by Cinebench results it should be around same as i7-6700 non k, but without more details and tests about this it is unclear.

But going by Cinebench, I5 KabyLake K model would be one that would be enough and is rather lower in cost, however overclocking of Ryzen and how much it increases performance in single core is unknown again, which makes estimates bit hard to make reliably.

If you get around 160 in Cinebench single core test, then single core performance is in level with Ryzen, if you get more, then Ryzen is slower in single core performance, which in current BeamNG version causes limits to FPS under certain conditions and on some more complex maps it is more trouble than on some other maps.
Next version of BeamNG might be different in this so Ryzen might be much better in next version of BeamNG as there would be less limiting factors, same way my i7-6700 will run game better if single core limiting factors are less in next version of BeamNG.

Point being, know exactly what it will do and what it will not do, to be able to make best possible decision for your own use. Ryzen certainly bring AMD back in game and for sure it gives enough good performance for BeamNG, as good as Intel's much more expensive workstation platforms, so it is very good choice, my point is that every CPU has it's limits and at least I would like to know about those limits too.

Oh and all those different settings and performance tuning, overclocking, there is so much more information to be available

Update: I just watched video posted on other Ryzen thread and there video maker was running Ryzen @ 4.2Ghz and had Cinebench single core result of 166, as Kaby Lake K model has score of ~190 these give some perspective of where Ryzen is in single core performance.

In same video I saw Ryzen running around 80C when doing multi core Cinebench test, so maybe with better cooling it might have better performance. Anyway good bits to know, those show that it is enough fast for BeamNG and especially if you want to run many vehicles, but with single vehicle it starts to look that i5 would give same or better performance with lower cost with BeamNG version 0.8.

I think that it still is best to wait and see a bit, Ryzen might give even better performance in next version of BeamNG, it can be that in future more cores will be more important than single core performance, even with single vehicle. Also with only 4 cores of i5 number of vehicles is always quite limited which is something to keep in mind, but that is something good to know so one can make right decision for himself.

 

Windows 10 With SMT on it's the weekend in a few hours so i can test more

 

Man oh man, anyone wanna buy my custom built 3770K tower? lol

I'll be building me a RYZEN based system sooner than later..

My plan is 1800X, clocked at 4.0 GHz (H100i V2, on a ASUS X370 mobo, 32 GB 3000 Mhz ram)

 

Later this year I will travel to USA (this is good because my country has insane taxes for electronics) and I pretend to buy a 1700+MoBo (which are way better than my current specs)

 

Hello people,
new results are in!
Ryzen R7 1800X, 32GB 3000 MHz RAM (running @2666), ASUS PRIME X370 PRO, RX480.
OS Windows 10, CPU settings at default incl. SMT (on). The CPU seems to clock itself at 3,7 GHz (Ryzens have some automatic overclocking bulit in). BeamNG resolution set as 1024x768, gridmap, spawning multiple cars and measuring fps.

Another thing - loading time of Altitude map went down from 2:10 to just 43 seconds.

Only peeve is that my Corsair H80i v2 does not fit AM4 socket, as the holes are placed bit differently. Corsait says on their page the new bracket should be available in about two weeks. However they do not ship to my country, so i will be stuck with scythe ninja air cooler until some shop here starts selling the bracket (or ebay).
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More numbers - here are my cinebench results of CPUs i managed to get my dirty hands on in the past
Ryzen is the most powerful in multi core performance, while in single core it is between i7 4790S and 4790.

Sadly i do not have any newer intel CPU to measure it against.

 

100 FPS with 10 cars. Amazing!

 

Awesome Dude. If you have freetime could you benchmark without SMT?
It should give you an performance plus between 5-20% depending on games, dont know how BeamNG reacts.
Just will bench my Xeon1231v3 which is a 4790 with 200Mhz less, just to compare to your numbers.
Lowest graphic you took also?

 

No problem, I will try it without SMT too.
Graphics were like this, except the resolution, which was 1024x768.

 

It's pointless to do these tests, if you don't do them in 1080p resolution, because that's the standard resolution for gaming nowadays.

 

Well, there is a problem - i cannot find the option to disable SMT in bios. Checked some discussion boards and it seems this options really is not there on my board. At least in this bios version.
Sorry.

 

@Zero Great your RyZen is awesome. How stable the FPS are compared to mine. My ones are just falling after 6 cars
Cant wait to get my fingers on 1700x

 

Your comment does not make any sense, if you are going to test CPU, then there is no point doing tests as GPU limited, hence using low resolution is way to make sure test is actually testing CPU, not GPU.

Higher resolution tests can then show how well CPU can feed the GPU, but that is far more complicated area which requires bit more work and understanding of how graphics actually work in BeamNG and how they load CPU and GPU to get any useful data.

 

I run it with i3 at 30 plus fps

 

This is Ryzen Overclocked tested and for me it looks like even 2600k overclocked is close match to Ryzen overclocked in gaming, they mention that Ryzen would have challenges when gaming @1080p or lower, so if running higher resolution then situation would be bit different.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/03/02/amd_ryzen_1700x_cpu_review/1

Looks like it is best suited for Blender rendering, so I guess that supports claim that Ryzen will be good if running lot of cars, but if one is getting single core limits, like what happens in many BeamNG mod maps or if driving with lot of lights, then even 2600K would be giving better performance. So know your needs before jumping the bandwagon.
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This is even more interesting, it seems in Win10 Ryzen might be under performing in games, so there is very big possibility that those lower resolution gaming issues could be related to Win10.
https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-ryzen-7-performance-windows-7-vs-windows-10.1926898/

Those are very clever people on H, reading these areas will give one very good picture about what to except. Hopefully Win10 patch will come and give boost in performance. Like I have written before Ryzen release, it is best to wait and see for real data to start come out, same with any brand and equipment really, there is always lot of hype at first and when dust settles you will know better what you are getting into.
https://hardforum.com/forums/amd-processors.6/
https://hardforum.com/forums/intel-processors.5/

 

It takes some time, until MS and AMD provide some updates to optimize the performance of those more. Currently, we know, that Ryzen is capable of doing many different thing with great performance, but in gaming they are still mostly on par or behind with Intel stuff. For me the bigest issue is the temps of Ryzen, when overclocking those to gain better performance over Intel, you need good cooler and with that, it's pretty much impossible to go under 86 C with air cooling.