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What should AMM's Australian cars be called?

  1. Gavril

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  2. Beaufort

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  1. GotNoSable!

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    Was going to use Freelander as a Jeep-like company but seems like it would fit better on a Land-Rover.
     
  2. MrAnnoyingDude

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    There is a Land Rover Freelander.
     
  3. GotNoSable!

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    Farlander maybe?
     
  4. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Not really...
     
  5. MrAnnoyingDude

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    My idea for the cheaper Swedish brand - a mix of Peugeot, Saab, Subaru and a bit of Mazda. Somewhere on the edge of ordinary, premium and enthusiast brand, got cheapened a bit in the 70s, 80s and 90s and is now trying to become premium through a lot of crossovers.

    Range:

    - B-segment hatchback (Mazda 2, Peugeot 208),

    - C-segment hatchback/wagon (Saab 9-2, Peugeot 308, Mazda 3, Subaru Impreza),

    - D-segment sedan/wagon (3rd gen Saab 9-3, Peugeot 508, Subaru Legacy, Mazda 6),

    - B-segment crossover (Peugeot 2008, Mazda CX-3),

    - C-segment crossover (Peugeot 3008, Subaru Forester, Mazda CX-30)

    - D-segment crossover (Peugeot 5008, Subaru Forester, Saab 9-4X)

    - C-segment electric crossover. (Mazda MX-30).

    Recently eliminated a compact coupe and minivan from the lineup.
     
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  6. CaptainZoll

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    considering you've got a decent bit of mazda/subaru in there, could we say that hirochi owns this company? (at least partially)
     
  7. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I was more thinking about past US (likely Bruckell) and current Chinese ownership.

    Or maybe independence, like Mazda's?
     
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    Info About Burnside.

    Burnside Is American Mid-Range Brand Made By Gavril From 1867-1985,1988-Today.
    It Does Very Well In China,However Is Losing In US.

    --History---
    It By Far The Oldest US Maker Founded In 1867 As Saddle And Trading Company In 1895 It Started To Make Cars
    In 1901 It Joined AMM As Mid-Range Brand By 1950s It Was Doing Very Well However Soon The Gas Crics Hit It Started To Lose Salls
    By 1985 Burnside Was Kiled From All US Dealers However It Stayed In Canada For 3 More Years Until It Was Remade In 1988.
    However The New ''Burnside'' Was Far Cry From Old One.
    Today It Faling To Keep Dealers Around After AMM Was Killed In 2001.
     
  9. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I have come to the conclusion that it would be a subsidiary of Bruckell in a similar way to how Ford used to own Mazda - some of their own engineering, some of Bruckell's, and had some range rationalisation in those days.

    Jargl would have been an AMM subsidiary, with decent independence like Volvo and Saab in their Ford/GM days.

    As for the third brand, I don't have ideas yet.
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    Why would it fail in the 80s? Why would AMM fail in 2001?
     
  10. fivedollarlamp

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    1. because they didnt offer a talking car
    2. because a somewhat small recession reveals an insane flaw in a business plan of a large company, causing investors to drop out in large numbers, furthering economic downturn and destroying said company.
     
  11. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Such companies don't go down just like that. GM or Ford never have.
     
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  12. Alex_Farmer557

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    Apart from the time uncle sam had to physically bail them out of going under
     
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  13. MrAnnoyingDude

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    And they didn't go under. Such behemoths practically never do.
     
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  14. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I think Jargl's lineup would be a mix of Volvo and Saab-if-it-still-existed.

    Models:

    - P4 - a compact hatchback, based on the Volvo V40 and Saab 9-1 renderings,

    - P6/F6/O6 - a midsize sedan/wagon, mixing the previous Volvo S/V60 and renderings of 3rd gen Saab 9-3.

    - P8/F8/O8 - an executive sedan/wagon, mixing the Volvo S/V90 and renderings of 3rd gen Saab 9-3.

    - O5 - a compact crossover, mixing Saab compact crossover renderings and the Volvo XC40,

    - O7 - a midsize crossover, mix of current Volvo XC60 and the Saab 9-4X,

    - O9 - an executive crossover, mixing the Volvo XC90 and Saab cues.
     
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    I dig it! Is there gonna be an american-based POS SUV that is based off of, lets say, the Bruckell version of the Trailblazer?
     
  16. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I'm not sure whether there would be US owneriship.



    This is why I'm starting a poll.

    If you want all the Swedish brands as their own conglomerate, vote Like.

    If you want two of them grouped together and another owned by a different corporation, vote Agree.

    If you want all of them under other companies' ownership, vote Informative.
     
    #156 MrAnnoyingDude, Nov 13, 2019
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  17. MrAnnoyingDude

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    If the Agree option wins, my idea for the companies would be that the lower-end Swedish carmaker bought the luxury one in the 70s, like Peugeot bought Citroen in the 70s. After ending up in financial troubles in the 90s, they would join forces with Charmand in a Renault-Nissan style alliance, which would exist to this day.

    As for the third brand, I have no idea whether AMM or Bruckell would have it.
     
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  19. MrAnnoyingDude

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    What segment is it supposed to be?
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    Another one of my ideas was one of the smaller US corporations (Colburn or faux-AMC) joining with Charmand in the early 90s, thus helping create a French-American-Swedish-Romanian conglomerate. The cars themselves would get a "bargain cool" image, similar to current Mopars.

    As for Jargl, I imagine it to have been an AMM subsidiary, and a more XC90 than 9-7X-like crossover.
     
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    Midsize sedan (Same segment as the Rambler/Hornet and Valiant.)
     
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