IMO 3ds Max 2013 is the best as it has both Edge split and Smooth 30 options, I honestly wouldn't be able to model without those. Does 3ds Max 2010 have those aswell? Try THIS. I hadn't noticed this actually, thanks for telling. I've left the gaps and very little details for when I finish the basic model and stuff, which is still quite a far way to go.[/QUOTE] Also, any suggestions on my polyflow ?