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ETK 800 Series

Discussion in 'Official Content' started by gabester, Jun 4, 2016.

  1. McBeamer94

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    One more detail in need of correction, on both the modern ETKs: the 320hp version of the 3.0 I6 Turbodiesel is written in the vehicle variants selector as the "310d" instead of the "320d" (or the "320 ECU", as its name is in the parts selector) it should be called, plus the trunk/hatch badges should also be the "320d"/"320d AWD".
    And all diesel variants should have the Diesel Locking Torque Converter with their Diesel 8-Speed Automatic transmission.
     
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  2. I<3ChickenWings&V8

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    I think the TTsport diesels aren´t having their Diesel Converters for the sake of performance. :cool:
     
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  3. kpeir7

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    For some reason for me the v8 engine doesn't have an exhaust. I just want to check if that is a problem cause it is quite loud.
     
  4. McBeamer94

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    They still have the Diesel 8-Speed Automatic though, so they have to have the torque converter to match. I mean, that's why it's there.
     
  5. I<3ChickenWings&V8

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    Because the Diesel Torque Converter "tightens up" the shift behavior on the Diesel transmissions as intended for economic driving but thats not wanted in the TTsport Diesels. Atleast thats my understanding from it.
     
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  6. McBeamer94

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    So the 320ds/ttSport Diesels should have the heavy-duty torque converter and not the standard one, because the Diesel I6 makes a lot of torque (645nm in the "320 ECU" version and almost 800nm in the "320 ECU Stage 1" version).
     
  7. I<3ChickenWings&V8

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    Then your point is totally valid. i only checked it on the highest TTsport Diesel with the 6-cyl engine.:cool:
     
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  8. bussin.buses

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    Update info?
     
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  9. Milendur

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    Adding to my first post:

    If you have turbo equipped it stays 100 % spooled if you stay at redline in neutral (edit: this seems to happen on more cars so it's more of a general issue)
    Speedometer gauges that go to 330km/h don't represent the true speed, for example it shows 100km/h while you are going 130km/h (edit: this, along with the gauge needles problem seems to happen on more 3d models on other cars too)
    Automatic transmission versions have the same brake pedal as manual cars, auto brake pedal should be wider
    6 cylinder diesel engine should have 5500rpm rev limiter from stock as before while currently it's 5000
     
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  10. Cutlass

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    does this mean a turbo Rennspecht version is coming?:rolleyes:
     
  11. I<3ChickenWings&V8

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    I think you can create it yourself. The parts are all there.
     
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  12. paulnewman

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    I have to say I'm not too keen on the tt sport variants handling. TT sport plus has too much understeer. Once you get some power oversteer in esc off mode the drivetrain displays a strange behaviour which results in very unpleasent force/feeling on the wheel. It becomes very stiff and doesn't self align in a natural manner.
    The "non-plus" variant is pretty dissapointing overall to be honest, seems rather unfinished. The suspension seems soggy, the steering limp/overassisted, the diff too open. The balance is veeery understeery.
    It requires a lot of effort on the throttle to fight that understeer off. Then it usually spins out.
    I feel like it should be 80-85% of what you get from the plus variant. It's 50 % there at best... It's a similar story with a k-series, although its generally a much more neutral car.

    The plus variant, although substntially better than the "standard" tt sport is still surprisingly hard to drift, considering its real-life counterparts. It definately has sth to do with its aformentioned balance. In cars with tendencies to plow, once you defeat that front-end push with throttle, they tend to snap. Maybe diff calibration also has also sth to do with it, because it can also be quite messy on drift exit.

    I'm sorry for being quite harsh but I'm trying to give some constructive criticism. I care because I love this game.
     
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  13. McBeamer94

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    Hahaha! ;)
    Idk though, I still think all automatic diesel ETKs should have the Diesel Torque Converter.
     
  14. I<3ChickenWings&V8

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    Luckily we just can give it the right one! :cool:
     
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  15. CaptainZoll

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    that's the intake for the KR, their engine parts are interchangeable.
     
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  16. DOUGL4S1

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    The Knallhart and the Rennspecht's front bumper disappears if the car is rear-ended hard enough. I managed to do that one on the Rennspecht by reversing at full speed into a wall, and the Knallhart by losing control and spinning into a tree.
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  17. GearHead1

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    The 846 ttsport+ is listed as such in the selector but badged as the 856x ttsport+.
     
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  18. McBeamer94

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    Yep, we have the right parts! :cool:
    But ok, I wrote my comment because we're talking about factory versions, so that's the spec to make the most sense.
     
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  19. paulnewman

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    Ok, I’ve done a lot of driving in tt sport plus since my initial impressions, so here is a little follow up:

    First of all I discovered that there is true greatness in this car hidden behind that (a bit rough) surface that requires just a little bit of polishing to be uncovered. A similar case to scintilla that improved massively since the first release.

    To the point: changing camber to - 15% eliminates most of understeer while maintaining required idiot-proof high speed stability for your average joe.
    At - 30% the thing is razor sharp but I realize it’s a bit much for civilian car.

    Also I realized I had not explained sufficiently the strange sensation you get while sliding in esc off mode. It’s not that the feedback becomes stiff but you get a strange repetitive tugging sensation that certainly has sth to do with how the thing controls power transfer to front wheels. It should be much smoother.

    As for the non-plus variant, setting camber to -25% and increasing ffb to 120% helps a lot in its dynamic prowess.
     
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  20. McBeamer94

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    -30%/-40% front camber in the "factory" settings for the 846 ttSport+ would also help with swapping the 4.4 V8 in because it's about 75kgs heavier.
    Idk how that repetitive horse galloping/squatting in 2nd gear can be cured though. Probably by smoothing out the power delivery.
     
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