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Freezing of varying duration that's still going since February

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by MisterKenneth, Feb 24, 2018.

  1. MisterKenneth

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    Lately I've noticed a grainy appearance to the game. It's not that big of a deal, but I'd like to know what's going on.

    Here's two screenshots where I've been able to notice the strange visuals.
    GrainyVisualCase1.png GrainyVisualCase2.png

    What's really bothering me is the game kept freezing up during gameplay the last few times I've played it. The maps I've used recently was WCA and Fujigoko. Some of the freeze ups were short, while others were a bit longer. The freezing is something I've never noticed in the past.
     
  2. Taza

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    The grainy effect is map specific, you can notice it on Ultimate Test Terrain too. This can be fixed by setting a higher lighting quality.

    Freezing is something I have noticed too, but this usually happens when the game is loading a new sound effect (like glass breaking). This has been a thing since 0.4 for me, and moving the game to ssd helped a little.
     
  3. fufsgfen

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    I keep damage app and messages app off, they cause freezes, especially messages app, but during history damage app has been doing that too.

    However those freezes are related to crashing, if freezes are during driving, it is more to do with loading stuff.
     
  4. MisterKenneth

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    Well, the freezing is still happening. I was hoping 0.12 would've fixed it, but it didn't. Whenever the freezing does happens, it pretty much cripples gameplay.

    My theory is that the ingame repository could be causing it, as it never happened until the ingame repository was added.
     
  5. Codeslamer

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    Have you tried turning off the automatic updates for the repository and seeing if it makes any difference? I've seen others say that it was one of the causes
     
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  6. MisterKenneth

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    I checked the automatic updates, and it was already off. I did have advanced functions, online features, and showing all vehicles in the selector on.
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    Yup, I turned those off and it's still happening.

    I'm ruling out my computer because like I said, it used to not happen.
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    Plus the rest of my games still runs perfectly fine.
     
  7. MisterKenneth

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    Here's something else about it, it seems like whenever the freezing happens, while all I see is one continuous frame, I can still hear the game working in the background. I can get a temporary remedy by pressing J twice to pause physics and then unpause it.

    Example: I had both a guinea pig Covet with a blown engine and the Barstow Awful together on Gridmap, and when it would freeze, I could still hear the Barstow's horn whenever I pressed H.

    It's very noticeable when I use the Wentward and two or more cars. And it seems like it either stops completely or becomes less of an issue when I slow down physics, and when I activate simplified physics. On Gridmap with simplified physics, the freezing will still occur with the Wentward to a lesser extent, and doesn't seem to happen at all with the Covet. I also had vertical sync set to "smart" during this.

    Is this lag? I currently doubt it.
     
  8. terasect

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    Sounds like the gpu is having times where it is not receiving data from the cpu. Maybe it is bad video drivers or some other software on the pc using up cpu cycles.
    It certainly seems like a lack in cpu availability if changes in physics loads makes such a difference. Something must have changed on/with the pc if this was not happening before. Is the cpu overheating at all?
     
  9. MisterKenneth

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    How would I know if the CPU is overheating?

    The only change that happened with the computer lately was the hard drive, the old failing one was swapped for a new one. The problem I've been dealing with arose before the hard drives were swapped.

    And like I stated in one of my other posts, BeamNG is the only one that does this. All of the other games I have runs fine. With that said, I don't think it's any bad devices.

    I don't know if there was any updates made to the computer that triggered BeamNG to act like that though.
     
  10. B727ClassicFlyer

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    I doubt it's my computer too, since I'm also experiencing this freezing that I think is linked to the ingame repository.

    I didn't experience freezing before the 0.10 and upwards updates.
     
  11. terasect

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    Certainly possible if it is accessing the same hdd when the game needs it. Otherwise the cpu would have to be reaally slow for something like that to effect performance, and specifically freezing of the video only. There could be a bug either way.
     
  12. MilanKD

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    I've been having freezing issues too. I first thought it was my hardware (which may play a role).

    also happens without mods and in safe mode
     
  13. MisterKenneth

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    Even today I'm still having the freezing issue. It just won't p**s off and stop disrupting my BeamNG experience, like I hope it will whenever a new update drops.

    I know because of this freezing, Light Runner is basically unplayable for me. This is what happened when I tried to play it.
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    When it freezes, the simulation is still running, and the only ways to somewhat remedy it is to either pause and unpause the simulation, slow it down, or both.

    I still don't believe it's anything to do with my computer, because it used to not do this, and I don't have this problem with any of my other games.
     
  14. HDR

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    I have stuttering on the new Lightrunner maps to some extent.
     
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    What about for the rest of the game? It basically happens to me throughout the entire game. Levels like GridMap is where I've noticed it's less obvious.

    Got any theories as to what's doing it?
     
  16. fufsgfen

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    Is it anything like this? Sounds kinda work, but everything is in extremely slow, this happens only when steering wheel is plugged in:


    This gets fixed with ctrl-r but sometimes game crashes from that and often need to spam ctrl-r several times.

    Anything can trigger that laggy framerate, changing vehicle, pausing physics, changing part of vehicle, even going back to main menu.

    It can be that yours is different, but I'm getting quite a lot of that now in 0.14, while in 0.13 didn't even notice until I did test autocross map which had many cones and tabbing trough them, then alt tabbing did cause the effect and that was with fresh and clean BeamNG install.
     
  17. MisterKenneth

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    Nope. For me it gets stuck on one specific frame, while the game in the background is still going normally. It's like going blind for a second, until I double press J, slow down the simulation speed, or both.

    And like I've said multiple times, it never did this until February.
     
  18. HDR

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    I only seem to have this issue on Lightrunner maps, it's usually very minor, but every now and then it fully freezes for a second or so, no errors are thrown when it happens either.
     
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  19. MisterKenneth

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    Then it sounds like a case entirely different from mine.
     
  20. Nadeox1

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    Yep, we have found cases when this happen (usually when skipping on complex parts).
    On our PCs it's not that severe, but guess it depends from the PC itself.

    Because it does not happen in other games, it does not exclude issues on the system side.
    Every game uses your PC in different ways, and this game is quite special about it.

    Since your issue has been going on since February, and on any map, I would not exclude that possibility yet.

    Screenshots unfortunately do not tell much about freezes, so please instead record a video of it.
    Also specify your PC full specs (CPU, RAM, GPU, OS).
    Also any controllers, or other devices you use to play with?
     
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