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Gas/Diesel/Charge station simulation/improved fuel simulation.

Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by JDMguy05, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. JDMguy05

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    I think the fuel system in the game is great, but I have an idea. I think that when your car is low on gas it should gradually lose power before disabling. Also, I think diesel-powered vehicles should take at least 2 seconds longer to start than the regular gas-powered ones. To go along with this, I think it would be cool to have useful fuel stations and add ones the maps that don't have them.
    How they would work (in my mind)
    -Drive to a station
    -Put the vehicle in park and turn it off
    -Wait for it to refill
    -Refilling should take between 30 seconds and 2 minutes depending on how full you already were
    -The same goes for electric vehicles, but time may be longer.

    What do you guys think? I kinda got this idea from GTA 5 DOJ RP if you were wondering.
     
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  2. Flippi 284

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    Time to leave the game on for 8 hours to wait for an electric car to charge.
    Would be interesting but I doubt most people actually drive around long enough to need a refill though.
     
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  3. r1pzor

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    I mean to be fair here the smaller and medium sized vehicles do loose some acceleration and engine power before the final cut. Just as if the radiator had been destroyed and lead to head gasket and piston ring damage and a full meltdown. Fuel restoration does sound nice for some simulation.
     
  4. Dr. Death

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    As long as the fuel pump keeps up the pressure there shouldn't be any loss of power. I haven't tried the ESBR to tell if there's less power as there's less energy
     
  5. Ph-rank

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    Good idea on fuel stations.

    As for a diesel engine taking longer to start they don't really anymore. Back in the days of glow plugs they did for sure and some still may but for the most part modern diesels use a grid heater to preheat the intake air and this occurs instantly with no user interaction. Old engines used a plug in the head similar to a spark plug only it heated up and stayed hot to get it started instead of making a spark. The operator would need to either hold a separate switch or hold the key switch in the preheat position for several seconds to allow the glow plugs to warm up enough. The need for a preheat system in a diesel is due to the way combustion occurs. In a gasoline engine the spark plug sparks when the piston is at the top of its compression stroke causing the fuel to ignite. In a diesel engine the fuel is ignited by compression alone. The compression stroke squeezes the fuel tight enough it explodes without the use of a spark plug. Cold fuel/air has a higher ignition pressure so a preheater is used until the engine is warm enough to function without it. In modern engines the preheater is a grid in the air intake that heats the air as it enters the engine taking a negligible amount of time to be effective. In old glow plug motors each cylinder had a small heater inside that had to warm up enough to do the job. This is based on my southern usa warm climate experience. Is severely cold conditions a diesel engine still needs a bit of extra help getting started. Starting fluid and engine block heaters are standard on most new large diesel farm equipment like the 9 liter in line 6 John deere uses. So maybe the ambient temp and current engine temp could be taken into account when determining how long engine starting should take. Also with a glow plug preheat the several seconds of waiting before the engine starts is done before the starter is engaged so it would just feel like a delay in the game with nothing happening. I would love to see an operator get out of the cab and spray starting fluid into the breather and curse for a minute in the snow though. Just for giggles
    Now on to out of fuel conditions. Different cars run out of fuel differently. Most newer fuel injected cars will run full strength until they die. Sometimes they will warn you with a sputter as you round a corner and the fuel sloshes away from the fuel pump intake then run normal on a straight until you either run out completely or corner again. Carburetors are a different animal. The fuel pump fills a bowl in the carb and air blowing by picks it up. All of the fuel air mix is set with screws on the carb. If the carb was adjusted to the rich side the engine will actually gain power for a second before it looses power and dies due to the fuel air mix leaning out to a perfect point. This is most pronounced on 2 stroke motors as they are always set slightly rich for safety sake. I have also had many cars just die when the fuel runs out with no warning, no sputter, just dead like u turned it off. I know next to nothing about what an electric would do. Never owned one, don't work on em, have no desire to.
     
    #5 Ph-rank, Jun 25, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2019
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