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Gavril H15 Vanster

Discussion in 'Official Content' started by gabester, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. YellowRusty

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    What part(s) do you think is/are too strong?
     
  2. rnd2k

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    The Body is too strong, its actually one of the strongest vehicles in impact, the metal should be weaker, like D series for example. Also T series will be interesting with Fiberglass hood, like the real trucks :)
     
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    It would, but I don't think Beam is optimezed to do that and still get a decent framerate yet.
     
  4. ManfredE3

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    Are you refering to the fiberglass hood? There's a few vehicles that have fiberglass & carbon fiber hood options now, and the tanker trailer has similar deformation.

    And I'm not sure the H-Series is "too" strong. When I was a child one of my parent's employees had a serious crash in one of our late 90's Econolines, rolled a fair number of times. The truck held up about as well as the H-Series.
     
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  5. LucasBE

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    what lol
     
  6. pippoose14 2

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    simulate fiberglass breakage
     
  7. YellowRusty

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    Cargo van bodies are usually pretty stout (depending on the direction of impact) owing to the sheer amount of uninterrupted sheet metal and internal reinforcement


    Hit it on a corner or edge though, and a lot of that structural integrity disappears:
    screenshot_2020-05-23_10-58-25.png

    The reason the H-series holds up so well in most car-to-car collisions has less to do with the body and more to do with the frame. A colliding vehicle strikes the van and crumples the body until it hits the frame, which stands up to the impact and allows the van to be pushed away, which takes up the remaining energy.
    Take a look at these pictures. In the first one, I struck the rear corner of the H-series with the Roamer on level ground, and in the last two, I used a low ramp to raise the impact up above the frame:

    screenshot_2020-05-23_11-02-13.png screenshot_2020-05-23_11-05-01.png screenshot_2020-05-23_11-05-12.png

    This is why the team has been putting so much effort into making frames separable from bodies during the remasters - if the two were firmly attached, some of the frame's stiffness would prevent the body from deforming properly.

    As for the T-series, I can't confirm this, but it seems that at some point over the International Eagle 9300's multi-decade production run, hoods were changed over from steel to fiberglass, meaning that there were some of both available.
     
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  8. CaptainZoll

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    i'll be interested to see how they style the higher-end passenger variants when the content update comes out.
    screenshot_2020-06-22_15-55-28.png
    personally, i've always found the existing sealed beam fascia of the H-series a bit weird. compared to the econoline and express work vans of the era, it's headlights are much more small and alone-looking in the massive buckets.

    both high end trims have a bit more chrome/colour matched trim, in general, but both also have fancier fascias with unique headlight designs, which in the chevy's case, are designed to imitate the double stacked lights of the C/K (and older generation vans) and even has different, more trying-to-be-a-minivan bumpers,
    where the econoline deviates a bit, but still roughly resembles the Ranger/F150.


    what i'm really curious about is how they plan to (or may already have modelled) this higher-end passenger van fascia.
    screenshot_2020-06-22_15-55-29.png
    I'd expect them to give it vertical stacked headlights, first to imitate the ~1992 post-facelift D series fascia, and second because it's the only thing I can think of that takes up that gargantuan space. the only other possiblilty i see is that they retcon the buckets on the existing sealed-beam fascia to be less tall, so they can give it more reasonably sized headlights, more akin to the econoline or ramvan.
     
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  9. KrukasKlep

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    considering the body is from 1995 and those chevy express vans still use the same body from 1995 with the 2020 models, it seems like the h series could use a 2010/2020 facelift for the front facia
     
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    am i just stupid but what content update?
    also sorry about the nudge
     
  11. CaptainZoll

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    like how the d series got the stepside, pre facelift, drag+drift configs, and charro body, etc. and how the romer got the LWB version, the devs have hinted that they're adding content in a similar fashion to the van.
     
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    I wonder if the h series will finally have side doors
     
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    I think that the d series retro front really fits the h series as a alternative front.
     

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  15. Radoslav Klucar

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    Did trucks in 70s/80s have fiberglass parts in stock?
     
  16. G-Farce

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    reminds me of gta for some reason
     
  17. fivedollarlamp

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    Let's hope we get an airport parking shuttle with this one.
     
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