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Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. amarks240

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    I like the 6th gen too, but having wrecked mine I'll never go newer than 5th gen thanks to emissions. My new 4th gen is going to be EXTREMELY non compliant.
     
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  2. SixSixSevenSeven

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    All of this.

    Though its also part of why I hated my corsa. Its 1.0 engine meant in order to join most traffic, you *had* to floor it, and floor it hard, shifting gears through the power band properly. Then in order to maintain highway speed it needed a bit of throttle anyway. It was awful. I've driven so many other small displacement cars, but that one had a distinctly american power to displacement ratio coupled with a distinctly european displacement, a bad bad bad combo. My 1.3 skoda on paper didnt have a huge amount more power but was far more capable. Both my fords at 1.6 and 1.8 were more capable and both matched the corsa for economy because oh look, not using all the throttle all the time.
    The subaru, thats never going to be as efficient. Too fun to give it some gas and even driven economically, you're trying to drive a 2 litre turbo economically, and not a turbo thats come around as a result of engine downsizing, one thats come around as a result of "go faster"
     
  3. aljowen

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    If you have 4wd thats probably not going to help either. Then again Subaru have never been good at fuel efficiency. But they make some cool cars.
     
  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    They've never done a fwd wrx :p
     
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  5. redrobin

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    Yes, absolutely. Ever tried to get a 4 liter V6 to do over 20 MPG? I still haven't. "It gets 23 mpg highway" they said. I call BS.

    Of course that's probably at a sensible speed like 55 and not 80... or 85... sometimes even 90. Oh well, going slow isn't fun.
     
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  6. fufsgfen

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    Why it is so that every car of mine that had low fuel consumption needed more spares than cars that had bit bigger fuel consumption, all kind of bushes, joints, little things constantly breaking, but with gas guzzler (sure, 9l/100km, 26MPG(US) average, full-size STW), I just needed to fill up and drive, even oil change was automatic, just fill it up every now and then, no other servicing needed.

    Probably it was just coincidence, but got me thinking if there is something in it.
     
  7. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Oil change shouldn't be automatic, suggests that really you've been burning it off
     
  8. Nissan Skyline

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    My 2004 Audi A6 S-line 2.7t is always having problems. Anybody who had this engine experience it's unreliability? It is also getting 8mpg average (I only drive city).
     
  9. fufsgfen

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    I think it was more related to that automatic oiling bottom of car to prevent rusting. I'm really sure it was just ingenious feature that American engineers had added to features of car, for certainly it was not various gaskets leaking and me not bothering to replace them :D

    That was not even very bad, my first car burned oil and leaked oils, so that I had to top oil few times between filling it up, for longer trips I had to allocate space from trunk for oil canisters, it was more than 1l/1000km when driving constantly, but if I did not drive for a while, had to top it before starting, there were problems with oil pan, crankshaft seal, rocker cover seal, valve stems and their seals were shot, probably piston rings were stuck too, but it was cheap and did not use lot of petrol, oil was cheap and only few radicals were thinking about environment, people generally buried used oil cans and everything else into ground back then, luckily these days people are bit smarter on that.
     
  10. Bubbleawsome

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    What in the world are you guys driving? Last time I drove an entire tank on city I got about 15.5mpg, and that was with a lot of throttle, idling, stop and go, and hills. I also drive on the interstate about 75-80 and I think I was getting about 26-28mpg. This is all with a 4.6l v8
     
  11. fufsgfen

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    Lot of fuel economy is of how one can see ahead in time, plan ahead, avoid braking etc. If one constantly jumps between throttle and brake or babies throttle on acceleration too much, MPG will drop, but yeah, different cars will have different figures.

    On city with full-size STW, I was lucky to get 15MPG, sometimes it was only 9MPG, long gearing, 307 Olds so not much power and a lots and lots of weight, so if trying to move fast it managed to burn a lot of fuel, however if I did accelerate without opening secondaries and avoiding braking, it might sometimes do close to 15MPG or even bit above.

    On highway it was solid 26MPG and I mostly drove on highway with it, 1-2 full tanks at once, so it was bit longer distance driving than people usually do.

    2.7t getting 8mpg sounds quite bad, is it running cold all the time or does ECU think it is cold all the time? That or driving it like on race track, I doubt it would drink so much otherwise.
     
  12. Slammington

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    The car isn't broken, it's just part of the Audi™ experience.
    If you want a serious response though, if the car really is fine (which it might not be given that fuel consumption) you might want to adapt your driving style so that you can drive more smoothly with less wasted energy (avoid braking hard, accelerating when you know you have to brake ahead, etc.)
     
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  13. Y4123

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    the problem is I'm only 16 I don't have a job and I don't have any money :(
     
  14. Potato

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    On a recent trip I drove about 180 miles and got around 16mpg. I was surprised. That trip was 160 miles of interstate cruising, plus 20 miles or so of rural backroad screwing around. Lots of wot and I even hit the speed limiter, which is supposedly 120mph. Probly cruised about 80 on the interstate. Still managed 16. Dunno.
    If i had to guess my average mpg I'd say 13 or 14. Can't know for sure because my cluster is dead.
     
  15. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    AKA: The better kind.
     
  16. CTJacob

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    My Grand Marquis can scrape 30mpg+ (7.8L/100km) highway if you use cruise and keep it below 70mph. 16.5mpg (14.2L/100km) city. My friends P-71 gets around 18mpg (13L/100km) on the highway. He has 3.27 final gears vs my 2.73s. Must be an engine tuning difference to because that's really extreme for just a gear change.

    The Focus gets stupidly good gas mileage for a 2.3L (remeber it is totaly devoid of all optnions including A/C). It's just hard to stay out of the throttle long enough to get a really good average for a whole tank. My best was 31mpg (7.6L/100km) COMBINED.
     
  17. Bubbleawsome

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    The whole thing? No odometer?
     
  18. Potato

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    Yep. No gas gauge, speedometer, tachometer, temp gauge, odometer, or idiot lights. It started as an intermittent thing when I first bought it but now it pretty much never works. I took it out last week, so there's just a hole in the dash where the cluster would normally be. I'm gonna get a new one sometime soon. Trying to get it ready to sell.
     
  19. Nissan Skyline

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    I drive pretty efficiently, and when I really try to save gas the best I can get is 10-11 MPG. About half the time I drive, I have the HVAC off, and just the cassette deck on. The only other thing I can think about is that my dad got an ECU tune, but is only affects the sport setting, and I still get low MPG in standard drive. The car in general likes to have problems, the most recent one was the steering wheel stalks stopped working, and according to the mechanic, the wires for them were melted and fused together. My Mom used to have a 2003 Allroad with that same engine. (Has since been replaced with flat 4 outback with a cvt:() On one road trip, the second we got on the highway, I heard a pop, I told my parents, but they thought nothing of it. Later on, the temperature gauge shot up, and when we pulled off, we discovered the coolant hose had popped off, and coolant was all over the engine.
     
  20. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Strip back to bare PCB. Then get online and look up the guides for reflowing a computer graphics card. Try it.

    Risk of destroying it entirely, but if it's already pretty dead I suppose it's worth a shot
     
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