General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. Ulrich

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    Not that old :) My father learnt on a Peugeot 104


    And my mother on a 205 (I think)

    At the end it might be a better idea. I don't know many people who get a 2017 car as their first car.




    Waaaah

    i want that²
     
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  2. Tesla66

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  3. aljowen

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    Motorways are for the most part covered in CCTV. Inner city areas around pubs etc where fights are likely to break out are monitored too as well as busier city area's like high streets. Private companies will usually have CCTV inside their stores too.

    In Middlesbrough which was near where I used to live they had people looking out for anyone that litters on the high street via CCTV, then they had a PA system where they would tell you to pick up your litter and put it in the bins :p

    As of 2015 Middlesbrough council operated "about 150" cctv cameras, 22 of which are "talking" camera's. They used to be operated by 4 staff members, but due to "sweeping budget cuts" they are now only operated by a single person.

    As for what I said about motorway camera's, you can see them on a map here: http://www.trafficengland.com/
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    You can click on any of the camera's to get a slow updating feed (every 30 seconds). However based on TV police shows I think they have access to a live video feed.
    You can also find out where message signs are and view what text is currently being displayed.
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    Hmm...
     
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  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Freak occurence.

    You'll actually find that a) CCTV cameras are nowhere near as prevelant as some like to make out (for example, a whopping 2 public cameras in my town), b) theyre expensive to man with little return so are often unmanned (though do often record) and c) in populous places, dummy cameras are common, and the 2 in my town are dummies.

    Where you do have functional cameras, its usually focused on a suspected trouble zone, the kind of spot you often find in america they just leave a cop loitering nearby instead.

    Speed cameras, alot of those are often turned off. Particularly the gatso style, people slow down aggressively for them to avoid the ticket, and so the money recouped rarely covers the cost of the camera, particularly when so much of that money is lost through the inefficiency of bureaucracy (doesnt matter what country you live in, large amount of your tax payer dollar is lost just in it jumping office to office). Average speed cameras have been shown to be far more effective both in terms of keeping traffic moving safely, and recouping costs.

    Most shops have private CCTV though. As does my parents house.
     
  5. aljowen

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    I heard once that speed camera's are usually only turned on when traffic calming measures are in place. No idea if that is true or not, probably just gossip though.
     
  6. VeyronEB

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    They are even cheaper here, they have had speed camera signs around a lot the main roads for years here, but no actual cameras, not even fake ones. Not that I'm complaining :p
     
  7. aljowen

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    They are just lulling you all into a false sense of security. Then one day there will be one and it will be giving people seizures with how often its having to flash :p
     
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  8. redrobin

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    I drove a standard run-of-the-mill Fiesta today. I can't believe Ford is killing them off in the states, it was such a blast even with an autosucks transmission. I'd forgotten exactly how tossable and planted they are.

    I need one... with a manual.
     
  9. aljowen

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    You can get them with an st package as well. Probably pretty quick then as well as chuckabke.
     
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  11. Googlefluff

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    That is literally the most absurd, backwards logic I have ever heard.
     
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  12. SixSixSevenSeven

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    The sign just means they're allowed to setup one of those Vans or a radar trap
     
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    Is there a new gt86 on the horizon yet or is it a bit longer away? Because a friend of mine wantd one and is thinking of getting one when the old model goes out and the new comes because they tend to be cheaper then
     
  14. SixSixSevenSeven

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    2018 I think gen 2 is out, with rumor of an awd turbo model
     
  15. skodakenner

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    Awd turbo would be so awesome for that but rwd with more power would be nice too as an option at least
     
  16. Ulrich

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    Hello. That's not good at all for modern standards.



    Just like saying

    "Oh look, they're making walls too hard today, they should go backwards and use straw"
     
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  17. NismoR35

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    Don't turn into luke #2.

    None of what you have just said made any sense at all. What someone else said, the chances of you surviving a crash in a new car compared to an older car are Higher. Like, seriously, it doesn't have to be another car, that's specifically newer than the car that is, or is getting hit by. It could be anything, from a tree, to a wall, Anything. If you'd argue that older cars are "stronger" than new cars just because the new cars has specially designed crumple zones, and parts that are designed to break that way so that it doesn't cause any more injury or any hazardous situation, Yes, some older cars can withstand such an impact, but what about you inside? What if they don't have any seat belts, airbags or any kind of safety equipment inside? The car stops suddenly, but you're still traveling at the same speed, what's going to stop you at that same speed, I wouldn't want to smash my face into the steering wheel or go flying through the windshield.

    There's a reason why alot of car dealerships, those "cash for clunkers" programs, and anything related are advertising to people to get rid of their old cars, it's not because they want to scrap it and make money, but want them to be in safer and newer cars. Don't quote me on this, since I know that this may be not entirely correct, but that's how I've seen it. But nonetheless, It's totally stupid for manufacturers to NOT focus on passenger safety, or "halt" on advancing itself. I mean, I can't break this down to anything simpler, if an older car has an accident with a newer car, then that's unfortunate, but that doesn't constitute the fact that advancing on safety "has to stop". It's just retarded.
     
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  18. Standard

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    I'm so done, I AM SOOOOOO DONE WITH THIS BULLSHIT.
     
  19. Bakasan

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    "toughness" is simply not the issue. You can make a car as tough as a brick and it will still kill you in a crash (see Chrysler Imperial)
    Halting development is not going to benefit anyone, all it's going to do is increase the amount of road accident fatalities.
    If you drive an older car, you're more likely to die in an accident. Don't like it? don't crash.
     
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    I'm currently wondering wether or not a Cavalier is a great car to go rallying?
     
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