The staff there are greedy desperate for their cars to be purchased. Not me, I'd prefer a fastback alike to the 800 Series mod.
That's the classic "one niche too far" trick only premium brands can succesfully play. Hyundai has no cachet to market that beached whale as an upmarket "5dr coupè" version of the standard i30 like they are trying to do.
Afaik that car has nothing to do with that business, in Czechia they're aiming at the Octavia liftback specifically, I wouldn't think anything of it besides being an i30 with a large hatch.
The worse designs from Hyundai, are the SUVS. They look worse than Merc's fat bloated GL_s. It seems like Hyundai stylize the vehicle way too hard and rough, and looks horrible. Personally, the Kona is my least favorite designed SUV.
It does look like they just took the designs from Lexus, Toyota and Citroen and mushed them together. In saying that the Santa Fe is reasonably designed at least.
The Santa Fe to me looks like a stretch-a-ton. The other two look like the Mirai SUV (Yes, I mean if the Mirai was a SUV.) designed by Hyundai.
Here it's being marketed as a "posh" lifestyle variant of the regular i30, bit like BMW's Granturismos. Looks just as laughably bad and pointless, at 1/4 of the price. Except no one is going to care because of the badge it carries. I can only think they tried to pull this trick because they knew beforehand that compact liftbacks wouldn't work on most continental european markets... but instead of giving up and desist, they launched it anyway. Here they can't even sell the regular hatch, the "Fastback" will be no different. Anyway, whatever its market positionment might be, it's no looker, like every other Hyundai. The competition - in the form of the Octavia - looking just as bad is really no excuse, but at least the Octavia has its followers.
Just finished watching this, it's a discussion about everything that goes into making the BMW i3. If you have an hour to kill, I cannot think of anything more interesting than this. Really goes to show where manufacturing is headed.
Yep, just a continuous cycle of moronic business decisions. I think the main things that failed Holden was failure to sell vehicles to world-wide masses & General Motors refusal to fund projects that would've been successful. For instance the Adventra likely would've sold brilliantly in the US. Basically a Subaru Outback with a V8.
I'd even reckon that the Coupe concept was a great promise. It looks like a Buick Pontiac fusion, and it looked nice. I'd just wish that it was advertised more, it seemed like a interesting route for a coupe. I know this led to the Monaro, but that car should've been named coupe to make it's concept counterpart more recognized then it was.
So, rather having the Monaro be called the "Coupe" is acceptable, yet the Toyota Truck and Van that you mentioned in another thread is the most dumbest thing you ever heard?
Aventura would have probably sold quite well in a lot of places, wouldn't even need a V8, 2 litre diesel would have probably been quite fine as a base model in European markets --- Post updated --- But yeah, GM mismanaged most of their subsidiaries for many many many years. Opel, hasn't been profitable since the mid 90s, hence it's sale. Holden is same story. All avoidable but they didn't care. Chevrolet isn't even doing that well alone
BMW I3 as a Model T of our time? Are you guys serious? It is the exact opposite of Model T. It is a small overpriced hatch that only the rich can afford and only the stupidest of them will buy. Innovate or die? What's innovative in it? There were EVs before, and there were cheaper EVs before, and there were faster EVs before. No wonder it "died" (not literally, but nobody buys it anyway).
But yeah, GM mismanaged most of their subsidiaries for many many many years. Opel, hasn't been profitable since the mid 90s, hence it's sale. The model T was also only affordable by the rich, and this really was one of the cheaper more practical EVs in recent years. I see loads of them around
Depends on what you mean as "rich", as buyers of brand new Honda Civics can be considered rich, too, when compared to the buyers of $500 used Civics. The point is, T was one of the cheapest cars of its time, while i3 is more expensive than 95% of competitors (mainly ICE ones). And only one of each 100-200 EVs I see is an i3, I even see i8s more often.
An i8 isn't an ev, it's a hybrid. The i3 isn't even that expensive at 33k, making it no more expensive than other prestigious German marques. Compare it to an e-golf, 33k. The Chevy bolt translated to UK pricing and vehicle taxes applied works out to about 30k. Nissan leaf, a much lower spec car besides battery capacity: 26-27k. Ice cars aren't it's competitor for pricing. So please, citation on most expensive option. When the model T came out. Nobody but the upper class could afford them. Workers could not. It signified a huge cost reduction in the automobile but it was not affordable for anyone but a minority of the population
Where did I say i8 is an EV? All I said about it was that I see them more often than i3s. E-Golf is a class bigger car, so is Nissan Leaf. Bolt is in the same class, but it can get more than twice as far on one charge according to this: The T-Ford was as affordable as a car could get back then. i3 is not the most affordable EV (let alone car in general) in its class as of now.
Why do I realize that some disaster movies include the Toyota Prius, and surprisingly a few get destroyed?
