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Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. Grind86

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    Cool.

    By the way, I like the old cars on the left side of the picture.
     
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  2. Grind86

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    Interesting. Thank you.
     
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  3. SuperAusten64

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    I know this is old but I didn't see it before:
    That entire article is garbage. All it is is a render made by Car and Driver that they themselves say "could be the Jimmy." It uses the words "could" and "will likely" constantly but doesn't once say "is" or "will" (apart from "GMC is looking to come up with its own competitor to the Jeep Wrangler," a claim that they do not cite). It's clickbait mixed with the journalistic equivalent of fan fiction, or posting in the Vehicle Suggestions thread. GMC has not announced any plans to make a competitor to the Wrangler or revive the Jimmy name.

    Car and Driver must have really gone to shit, because this is the cover of their latest issue:

    They conveniently forget to mention anywhere on the cover that this is a concept rendering (again made by them) and isn't what the actual Bronco will look like.

    TL;DR: Fuck Car and Driver.
     
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  4. GotNoSable!

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    Oh damn.
    Scandal confirmed?
     
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  5. SuperAusten64

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    Nah, they do shit like this all the time, and they're far from the only ones. Modern journalism is basically all this.
     
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  6. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Well, in most European countries it is the norm that car magazines will post renderings of cars on the cover and simply say "Car X", not "Rendering of Car X". Cultural differences.

    Example from the cover of Motor:
     

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    Yeah, but it being the norm doesn't make it not shitty. When I first saw the cover I thought Ford had already revealed the Bronco, which is what they wanted me to think so I would read it.

    Speaking of shitty magazines, ever notice how every tabloid always has the words "IT'S OVER!" over a picture of a random celebrity couple on every single issue, regardless of how true it is?
     
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  8. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Well, it's common knowledge that this is just supposed to give you an idea of what the automakers have got in their pipelines, not show a 100% accurate picture of the future lineup.
     
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    I see that Bronco on the cover of that magazine and it looks totally fake. By the way. I have a question for you SuperAusten64.

    Do you think Car and Driver were ever good at one point?
     
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    I'd like to talk about cars that should be sold in the US but aren't.

    First, the Volkswagen T6.1 California. Seriously Volkswagen, what were you thinking? You're making a fabulous little camper that harkens back to the days of the original Type 2 and the Vanagon, and you're calling it the California, and you're holding press events in California, but you aren't selling it in the US? I suppose the lack of demand (particularly the fact that it isn't a humongous Canyonero-esque SUV like the Atlas) is the main reason, but it still seems like such a missed opportunity.

    Second, the upcoming Honda E. It's a great-looking (though the original concept had better wheels and I think only two doors suits it better) little electric city car with a surprising amount of power (an great example of a "hot hatch" as europeans call it) but they're not going to sell it in the US. In fact, they initially planned to, but decided against it. Honda claims the reason was that Americans likely wouldn't want a small electric city car. I see the logic in that statement, but seeing that the Bolt and to a lesser extent the i3 sell perfectly fine here I think it's an even bigger missed opportunity than the Volkswagen. They could even do what they and Toyota do with their hydrogen-powered cars and only sell them in California, where more people are likely to buy them.
     
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  11. Potato

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    That's a super lazy attempt to pass off their render as insider GM info or whatever. They're supposing a body on frame, RWD wrangler competitor under a picture of a current Acadia with big wheels and a lift rendered under it. The Acadia is on a unibody, fwd platform.
     
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  12. MrAnnoyingDude

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  14. MrAnnoyingDude

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    More likely a both-ends crash in a rare car, and trying to repair it with the parts that were available.
     
  15. MrAnnoyingDude

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    A 1975-79 car depreciation table.

    Note that the values are nominal, not adjusted for the rather high inflation.
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  17. SuperAusten64

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    Gotta love how literally the only differences are the grille and bumper. Then again, that's a massive change compared to this:

    Left: Dodge Aries K
    Right: Plymouth Reliant K
     
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  18. GotNoSable!

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    ones blue doe
     
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  19. Potato

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    "Just slap a waterfall grille on it and bump the price up a couple thousand"-Ford.
     
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    or, ford Australia: "just slap a cheap looking plastic waterfall grille on the base model which looks horrible so no-one wants it, so we have to bring the price down to move them.
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