General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    -Camaro LT V6
    -Mustang Ecoboost
    -Veloster/Elantra N
    -Miata
    -BRZ/86
    -Impreza WRX

    These are the cars I was looking at, so for reference, which ones don't rat you out?
     
  2. GearHead1

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    Both excellent choices. The 'stang is probably better for everything but pure driving pleasure and exhaust note. The Camaro's High Feature 3600 is pretty reliable (more so than the peppy Ecotec LTG), and makes good power too.

    You already have had a Veloster, so you know it well and can discern its value better than most.

    The NDs are very tailhappy, and often too much so. Also not practical.

    Both good, and the BRZ/86 engine is pretty much fixed.

    Have you considered a GTI?
     
  3. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    I'm honestly surprised as, not having driven any of them yet, I would have expected the Mustang to be the better one for mountain passes at the price of sounding like a four cylinder. The only thing I'm really worried about with the Camaro, other than possibly being spied on, is that *wonderful* GM throttle lag which seems to infect even their track-oriented cars if Road & Track is correct.

    True, but the Veloster N is pretty special compared to what I have. First, the second-generation Veloster in general has independent rear suspension in place of the first generation's poorly-tuned torsion beam setup, which should eliminate the pogoing and slithering that plagues first-gen VTs without proper suspension modifications. Second, the N in particular (also the only one they make now) has a larger engine, which puts its factory power output within striking distance of what the local import shop thinks is the maximum my first-gen turbo would be capable of on Alaska's garbage 90 RON "premium". On the other hand, however, it seems that the VN continues Hyundai's tradition of not being able to figure out long-term engine durability; apparently 2020 models are already under recall for rod bearings.

    I laugh at practicality, but with the way I drive it may be that such tail-happiness is not a good idea. Now that I think about it, I might find myself wanting more power at some point, and you also can't get the Brembo brakes under $35K because they're tied to the midlevel trim that carries a $4K premium over base - very irritating to see Mazda go down that path.

    Will keep that in mind, but what was the problem and how was it fixed? I've heard that Subarus (and flat engines in general) are extremely vulnerable to oil starvation; how are they on that front?

    I did check out the Golf GTI, Jetta GLI, and Mini Cooper JCW. They all seemed to me to have a very poor value proposition - just as expensive as any of the others for barely more power than my Veloster already has, and unlike the 86 or Miata they don't have RWD to make up for it. Part of the problem with these cars is that desirable performance & appearance options tend to be locked behind budget-busting luxury & technology packages which are unnecessary at best.

    Other cars I passed over included the Honda Civic (Type R completely gone from configurator when I looked; the best that was available at the time was only roughly equal to my current car), Kia Forte (same; a class below what I was looking for), and Mazda3 (only way to get a manual is to buy one specific trim level of the hatchback with the NA engine and FWD).
     
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    They can't stop making that POS powerplant soon enough.

    I have a base model Mustang GT that doesn't even have a touch screen, let alone the ability to phone home to anywhere without my phone connected via bluetooth. Don't know how the new ones are, though. Mine's the pre-facelift.
     
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  5. combatwombat96

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    Deleted, cant figure out this fucking video thing
     
  6. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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  7. GearHead1

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    Significantly worse than an 86, that is.

    The old 86 had a torque dip around 3500RPM(?) and was overall just horrible at power delivery, while sounding awful. All of that is fixed.

    Not sure, but I guess that has to do with mounting low?
     
  8. Guydude

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    The first generation of the 86 triplets never really had issues with oil starvation, it was more an issue with overheating the oil from extended spirited/track use. It was a very simple fix in the first gens by just installing an aftermarket oil cooler. the second gens however had a oil cooler as factory standard.
     
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  9. default0.0player

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    Even if Tesla won the drag, it would still overheat after two laps of track racing
     
  10. GearHead1

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    Did you even watch it?
     
  11. default0.0player

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    Yeah, Tesla lost. What I meant is that even if Tesla won, it still doesn't mean Tesla is superior.
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    Not to mention about the argument about whether the Tesla has 100% charge, Tesla already lost since non-overrated cars' power don't depend on fuel level.
     
  12. Addicti0nToB00st

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    your gramps is cool man it seems, driving a rolls
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    Elantra N is solid choice
    Double wishbone afaik in the front and multilik rear
    and that 2.0t is very potent motor, good sounding as well
    it's not as mature looking as let's say a gti but i rather have hyundai EN than new gti, the interior just went 2 steps backwards in new golf
     
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  13. GearHead1

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    Moral of the story: get a last gen GTI
     
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    Here's another one: Tesla Model X. Rear left motor disabled - Vehicle shutting down
    As you can see, only the rear left motor had a problem, however, the vehicle intentionally shut down the rear right and the front motor by software means, making the vehicle undrivable.
     
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    Hello Beam users. Just dropping in. How is everyone?
    Bought a car last week. 1997 Infiniti Q45 base model. 196k miles. Runs like a top and rides so smooth even with ruined suspension. Good torque from the 4.1L DOHC V8.
    It has some problems with power steering and front suspension. And the trans is kind of sketchy. Its in the shop now, I have the parts to make it drivable.
     
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  16. Harkin Labs Gaming

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    Wow, nice. I've heard those are hard to find parts for, good that you have them.
     
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  17. combatwombat96

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    Engines done, cost an arm, leg, liver and an eyeball buts its finally done, in the incorrect shade of blue too. gotta wait three to four weeks before the mechanic down the road can fit it but ill be patient (again), need to make some moneys (again). Just four more weeks...
     
  18. urbanestdog45

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    I'm sure the Type R is being developed for the current generation of the Civic chassis (development takes time, give it around 1-3 more years and should come out by then). The Kia, was just not a performance car to begin with so, kinda understandable that an MT was not offered in the higher trims. I was gonna comment on the Mazda 3, but you already covered what I was gonna say.
     
  19. Harkin Labs Gaming

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    Washed the new GS the other day, turned out really well.

    Went from this:
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    To this:
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    Unfortunately it didn't stay like this, but at least its presentable now:
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    Its new home for now is in front of the Reatta while I either put together money to put a concrete slab there or rent a storage unit.
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  20. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Coming home today I punched the gas to pass a motorhome and the car responded by jerking, struggling, and acting like it was trying to choke out. Problem is repeatable and comes with a noticeable change in sound, like it gets choppier while the problem is happening. Intensity varies with load; the problem doesn't show up at all while revving in neutral, appears at lower intensity in first gear (sound difference is noticeable but it doesn't seem to slow the car down as much), then appears at full intensity in second and higher - really only obvious under hard throttle around and above ~3500 RPM, though as I got closer to home, I started noticing jerkier throttle response below these thresholds as well.

    Engine ran like a top until I tried to pass that motorhome, including another full-throttle blast just minutes prior, except that earlier, while idling, the RPM had suddenly and briefly dropped by several hundred as if the car were trying to choke and stall out. This is not the first time the car has done this, but it never seems to stall while doing so.

    No CEL, no oil pressure lights while this is happening, enough oil still in the engine. The paranoid part of me wonders if throwing it through some curves with the oil somewhere in the high middle of the acceptable range didn't cause some kind of permanent engine damage (that road does, after all, have a lot of long sweepers, one of which would cause my old Escort to throw an oil pressure light if taken at a spirited speed), but intellectually I'm sure that's pretty low on the list of possibilities.

    Everything I've looked up, and everything I've read about Velosters, says coil packs, plug wires, and O2 sensors are likely culprits, but I came straight home instead of detouring to check for codes because I was paranoid about getting stranded. (Kind of annoying to have this crop up right as I'm starting a full-time job, if I'm honest.)
     
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