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Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by BlueScreen, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    You're going to be very disappointed overclocking a non overclockable chip and placing your 16gb of DDR4 into a DDR3 only motherboard.
     
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    The one I've seen there was a DDR4. :-/
    And what do you mean by non overclockable? If you mean the CPU, I'll just follow Firepowers hint to use the k-version. Wanted to do that anyways.
    By the way, who the hell needs freaking Zink keys in his keyboard?
     
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    GODDAMMIT MAN! I'LL TAKE A Z170-K AND i5-6600K THEN.
    Dude, thanks for not being blind. That rig gets more and more expensive. But also more senseful.
     
  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    The Z97 chipset is DDR3 only. It also says this on the product page for the Asus Z97K.

    And yes, non overclockable CPU, spend the extra few bucks on a K model, they arent much more.
     
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    Yeah that what's happened to me. What was supposed to be a little update costing about 900€ went to whole new pc and screen costing 2100€ :D
     
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    Thank you so much for saving me guys.
    Although... probably just a thing that would happen in the shop otherwise. There's one like five kilometers from here that my dad helped installing the telephone system in, so I kinda know the guys there (more or less indirectly).
    So... let's say I have my system specs together then? Thanks for your advice. And also, is PhysX taking like 50% of the computing? Would explain the need for such a good GPU.
     
  7. SixSixSevenSeven

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    PhysX in what?
     
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    In BeamNG. PhysX is the driver function that enables GPU's to take over a part of the physics computing, while the CPU would do the job elsehow.
    Only the good GPU's support it though.
     
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    BeamNG and practically every other game does not use PhysX. It's a dead Nvidia only techology.
     
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  10. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Wrong and wrong.

    PhysX is a physics engine from NVidia. Nothing special, just a generic physics library like havok, bullet or newton. Does support NVidia CUDA though, CUDA is the technology that allows general purpose computing on GPUs, typically massively parallelised.

    BeamNG uses its own physics engine not PhysX. BeamNGs own physics engine does not use CUDA either.
     
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    Great job at spotting my lack of knowledge in that. Might be an awkward way of testing people, but maybe I'm just weird.

    Anyhow. Why is BeamNG also relying on good graphics cards aside from processors? Massive shaders? Non-rendering worlds?
    Also: Thanks for finally making that clear to me........ :p
     
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    Well using East coast USA as an example (its my usual benchmark) there are so many objects, shadows, foliage and lods to load. Thats the main reason for its high use although its not as bad as you may think.

    If you are wanting to fully max (minus reflections) the game something around a HD 7870/GTX 760 are kinda the bare minimum for 30+fps. As for just running the game at reasonable settings I have a HD 5770 and it runs well enough at normal to low settings staying above 30fps all the time so its not super hard to run. I would still much more recommend a HD 7000/R9 or GTX 700/900 series card though if you can
     
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  13. Eastham

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    Honestly fully maxed with reflections my card gets 35FPS sometimes dropping below 30 but if I disable reflections I'm back on the FPS limiter.
     
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    Oh yeah thats true, added that in. Reflections are a pain to run maxed, I usually run them on lowest everything but distance (on my 7870 I ran level 2 resolution and pretty low everything else) and it seems to be going fine for me eating no more than 2-3 fps.
     
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    As you can see up there, I'm willing to buy a GTX 960 4G. That'd run the game smoothly, I guess. But it's good to know what exactly on a game makes for low fps so you can change it.
     
  16. Eastham

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    Don't expect to run BeamNG maxed with reflections at 60FPS that's more GTX 970 territory IMO
     
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    I know. But I expect it to run at at least 40-50FPS at relatively good settings. Dude, that computer will cost me 1050€, and I haven't counted Controller, Joystick, Mouse and Keyboard.
    Yup. I want my brother to at least pay a big part of the Joystick and Controller though. I don't have infinite money too!
    Also, I'm definitely going to build it up myself. I'm not paying even more money for something I can definitely do myself.
     
  18. Eastham

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    I'm really not as worried as a should be about this...

     
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    Kuhler? I have the 620 (Thin rad) and it's been going strong for like 3 years now. And that's under AMD heat. Joking aside, it's been a really good AIO to me.

    Just, uh, tape it or something.
     
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    I just pulled the pipes of it and replaced them with some fuel hose I had laying around and ziptied/ hose clamped them onto the rad and pump fittings, I've had it running out of my system for a while now and it has yet to leak, may not end up needing it because my PC doesn't seem to wan't to boot into windows and isn't detecting the ram I put in the last two slots of my motherboard, so it thinks I only have 8GB of ram, this is after bios being reset too. Guess I won't be playing BeamNG for a while. Well if you will excuse me I'm going to try and turn my PC into lemonade because right now its a bunch of lemon's, got a good feeling my motherboard has kicked the can...
     
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