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Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by BlueScreen, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    in general an ATX case will have mounting holes suitable for microATX and mini ITX too.
    The only difference for an ATX and microATX board is of course the ATX board is physically larger so may have a few extra PCIe slots and maybe more RAM slots (many microATX boards only take 2 DIMMs, ATX is almost always 4 although a few microATX will also take 4).

    Going down to Mini ITX, usually 2 RAM DIMMs, sometimes only 1. Only ever 1 PCIe x16 slot, sometimes a mini PCIe or an m.2 slot on the back. These boards are tiny, often feature a price premium, are rarer and basically quite specialist so I'd advise ignoring this option.

    MicroATX still has options for SLI and crossfire, will take your extra pci wireless card etc.
     
  2. skodakenner

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    SLI and crossfire aren´t too big of a deal but 4 Ram slots would be nice to have beause four times 4gb of ram are cheaper than 2 times 8gb of ram
     
  3. BlueScreen

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    No they're not, 2x8GB is cheaper than 4x4GB, also, why the hell do you want 16GB of RAM anyway. Get 2x4GB.

    Even if it was cheaper you're spending more on the board so you can save on RAM... Rather pointless, you'll probably end up spending more anyway.
     
  4. redrobin

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    I have 16 because I kept filling 8 up, but I'm special.
     
  5. BlueScreen

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    My 970 doesn't like clocks above 1.5GHz.
    Tried 1466 MHz. Stable OC at 1.187V, ran a stress test for 5 minutes with no issues, 68C max. Hit the power limit and throttled down to 1440 at times. 1516 MHz/1.197V, driver crash and screen froze as soon as I launched the test.

    Guess I'm keeping it at 1466. Still a good 290MHz over stock boost - about 25%.
     
  6. randomshortguy

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    I've got mine to 1499, no voltage adjustment but 110% power limit, but I can't increase memory clocks; +100 makes the screen go rainbow and freeze with a black screen.

    Unfortunately it then runs high 70s, and that's way to hot for my liking. I'm getting a new case (EVGA Hadron Air) and swapping the Node 202 to the office pc, hopefully that will make it run cooler. Pro tip to Node 202 potential buyers: cooling is horrid for the GPU; it will idle at 60 degrees because the hot air can't escape. Still good for a decently powerful office PC.
     
  7. BlueScreen

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    I've got memory running stable at +200MHz.

    Also. Blower cooler is the way to go for cramped ITX cases like the 202. Louder but works very well.
     
  8. randomshortguy

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    Absolutely, but the rear of the card still produces a lot of heat that just gets trapped against a plastic panel.

    And, I don't have a blower card.
     
  9. Funky7Monkey

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    My 950 boosts extremely well, up to ~1440MHz. And I can just barely bring it to 1.5GHz. I can't OC the memory though. Any OC on it and I get artifacts. Oh well...
     
  10. NistingurA

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    I ask here instead of making a new thread.
    I was looking in the internet on the search for a new CPU. My stepfather said instead of buying an i5 I should get a Intel Xeon.
    I was interested and started searching. I found a sensible cheap one which is around the same performance as a i7 3770k
    It´s a Xeon 1271 v3. Is there any Xeon which is kinda cheap ( around 300€) which is around the performance of an i7 4970k ?
    or anything compareable for that price which could run BeamNG on a nice framerate?
     
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  11. SixSixSevenSeven

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    xeons tend to be slower under gaming load and cannot be overclocked (which is the entire point of a 4970k over a 4970). Cannot be recommended really.
     
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  12. NistingurA

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    Thx. do you recommend any i5? like a 6600k?
    or a cheap i7 in the same price range
     
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  13. redrobin

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    It'll completely depend on your workload. In single threaded applications, an i5 and i7 of the same generation will be just as fast. I7's are really for those who enjoy CPU rendering, game streaming, or bragging rights (or if you really enjoy smashing 8 cars at a time in Beam). I can say from personal experience, I find it quite easy to make my i5 the bottleneck of my system, but that's because I give it an i7's workload.

    But if you're just gaming and nothing else, I'd still recommend the 6600k (I'd actually really recommend the 4690k, as Skylake is a bit of a disappointment), even though the i7 has the hyperthreading.
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    I think that this is fast enough.



    There's no way in hell that it's accurate, but whatever.
     
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  14. BlueScreen

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    Get an i5. The Xeon is hyperthreaded, yes, but HT doesn't do much at all in games and you'll get the same or better performance if you overclock the i5 a little bit.
    If you already have a Z87/97 board, get an i5-4690K. If you have an H8x/97 board, get an i5-4690. Otherwise go Skylake, get a 6600K and a Z170 board.

    Also, btw, no such thinh as an i7-4970K, you mean 4790K?
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    Why? You get slightly better IPC, it overclocks pretty well, and supports DDR4 memory.
     
  15. skodakenner

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    is it normal to get a fps gain of 5 when putting beamng on a SSD instead of a HDD
     
  16. NistingurA

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    Yes. SSD´s normally are way faster then a normal HDD. Files can be transfered faster.
     
  17. SixSixSevenSeven

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    except storage speeds dont impact framerates
     
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  18. Eastham

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    Pentium 2 workstation power!

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  19. Godzilla!

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    Windows 10 has 3.36 GB of Temporary files according to the Settings app and it isn't deleting them, any way to remove them?
     
  20. Funky7Monkey

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    Don't bother. They're probably hidden deep within appdata. Do you really need those 3 gigs?
     
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