General computer talk/advice

Alright, ill try them. I hope they work. I don't want to destroy my computer with it and call you liable. I like how you are always sarcastic about things.

 

i hold no liability and cheers for the snide comments

 

Received this today, Nvidia Shield Tablet K1. Brand new, feels so good to replace that awful 480p phone I've been using for ages. Oh and boy is it fast.

 

This a good choice for my birthday??
idk if it is or not
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product...act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

 

Doesn't seem to have built in speakers, so make sure you have headphones. Other than that, it seems good.

 

Yeah, I have a headset but lol i wouldn't even bother with monitor speakers

 

Buy it.

 

I'm running at a 860K at 4.6Ghz and I am getting a poor FPS in most maps like below 30FPS at times. I know for sure its not my GPU. I am wondering if anyone else has a similar CPU and has the same issue.

 

Well it's a cheap CPU from AMD, a company known to make horrbile CPUs for gaming for the last couple of years. Might be better off with a Pentium or i3 (yes, I know they both cost a bit over $100).
Btw, don't wonder if the people in this thread talk extremely direct.

 

What? They aren't terrible for gaming, they just have horrendous compute performance and as such don't excel at realtime simulation such as Beam. There's a lot of processing power required for games like Beam, but games like GTA V or Tomb Raider do just fine. I recently ran Beam on an FX-6100 paired with an HD 7850 on Utah and saw somewhere around 35-50 FPS depending on where I was. It's important to remember that the 860K and FX series use similar architecture principles, if not the same architecture (code named differently) in most cases.

Also, the Pentium isn't over $100, Intel isn't that stupid. You can get a G4400 for somewhere in the realm of $45-70 if you shop right, same as the G3260 and famed, unlocked G3258.

Also, he should run some tests to ensure that his GPU isn't the problem. Just because he thinks it isn't doesn't mean so. What he needs to do is boot up Beam, load a D-15 on grid, pure. Then he needs to load up an FPS counter and pause the game. If FPS increases, it's CPU, if it stays the same, it's GPU.

 

@SixSixSevenSeven @BlueScreen
Ok guess here we go again. I'm playing space engineers, and I love it. It's early access on steam like beam, but the physics optimization is horrible and marks the first game to really push my trusty 1090t phenom 2 cpu above its ability. It's been a rock solid work horse of a cpu since I got it in 2010 (I think maybe 11), and I thought I might make it till the next Gen but I'm worried I won't. The fact that a die hard AMD fan is wondering should I go skylake is a wakeup call enough. Should I drop the AMD setup that runs EVERYTHING else I throw at it just fine along with my 290x? Again this is just to play a pre optimized game, and is also an excuse to make the jump to this decade. I play with much bigger than stock plannets, and after seeing it use all 8 gigs of ram, another first, I picked up a 16 gig ddr3 kit and with big plannets it used every last byte of it. Maybe I should get a nice 6600k with a reasonably priced board and another 16 gig kit in ddr4? Or suck it up and wait for the devs to hopefully optimize it before this decade ends. I need single thread performance above all else. What can I expect if I go from a 1090t at 4.1 ghz to a skylake chip? 2x the single thread horsepower? Love you guys.

 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2570&cmp[]=393

 

I know AMD is definitely lacking in the CPU department, Zen better be good, but I haven't experienced a FPS this bad in any other game, even in Arma 3 I get better than this.Hopefully soon I am going to be getting a i5 6600K and overclock it as high as possible.

 

i3 6100 would be enough too as far as I'mconcerned, but go for the 6600K if you want to (like me).

 

Skylake has a negligible performance difference from Haswell. On average, depending on load, the difference is less than 10%. With Haswell, you can also reuse your ram if needed.

Unless your bitcoin mining, just go with a 4690k, less expensive, performs similarly. Mine's served me very well.

 

zen doesnt really look much better from the current data

 

Any one else want to chime in? Is the general consensus that skylake is only 10 percent better single thread than haswell? I'll be bumping the voltage on whatever I get, so if skylakes smaller production node will return better clocks I'll likely make the jump. Single thread is king.

 

Well that's just wrong and totally unfounded.

There is a 40%+ gain in instructions per clock from last gen which is considerable to say the least not to mention all of the power savings and optimisations.

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-cpu-performance-double-fx-8350/

You can just Google it and find out more about it..

 

My plan is to reconsider when zen and the next big Intel Jump occurs, but honestly I really want double the single thread performance ideally for a platform upgrade. I'm finding that the 4790k is going for just as much money as the 6700k? Re using the ram would be nice but that's not a deal breaker at all even if ddr4 is a marginal upgrade. The phenom 2 hardware I have will likely be good for another 6 or 7 years of hard multi tasking as that's were it really shines considering Im only a power user when gaming. I'll crunch numbers and see what the 3 parts I'll need for a skylake upgrade and a haswell upgrade will cost. I might be wrong but the Waters used to be much less murky when it came to "what parts should I buy".
EDIT: Newegg wants more money for a 4790k than a 6700k. I'm leaning towards a tomorrow friendly 6600k that I'll push to around 4.5 ghz. It's still a 500 dollar upgrade so I'm weary of being disappointed.
This seems like a reasonable upgrade if it will wipe the floor with my 1090t. Everything else I can re use from my current setup
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YN6BhM

 

A i5 6600K is going to cost around the same amount as a i5 4690K, currently the 6600K is actually cheaper. Also while the performance difference is small although it can show with it is still a difference. Plus I get DRR4 ram which can be reused on future sockets. You get the latest features on the motherboards. Also the choices for high end Z97 motherboards has narrowed down a ton and will only get worst and none of them really suit what I want out of a motherboard.
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Zen is going to have a 40% increase IPC which has a chance of putting ahead of Skylake by ~10% which would be devastating to Intel and would encourage more development for CPU's from Intel and at worst its going to be on par with Haswell. Either way its going to be way better.