General computer talk/advice

According to geekbench my single core score is 3865 and my multi-core score is 13099.

 

That's CPU, graphics drivers won't effect the CPU performance

 

I think it is possible for GPU driver updates to make the CPU perform better. However only under heavy GPU loads. Since with rendering systems like OpenGL the CPU more or less controls the GPU (by setting GPU states etc). So if a GPU driver update manages to accelerate/optimise the calls made by the CPU to the GPU then you may find that CPU use might go down when under heavy GPU use.

However, if your GPU is sat around idling for the most part you won't notice any difference at all and frankly, within games the difference will likely be small too. Equally I don't know if optimisations like this are ever really made, I doubt nvidia cares if their CPU side driver code is a little inefficient, since people will just assume its the CPU's fault for being too slow.

 

wow i never thought my PC would run BeamNG at 100Hz especially with a GTX 960... makes me think if i need the horsepower of Vega to upgrade, i am now thinking of maybe getting a polaris card.. Do you think it would be worthwile? my monitor is freesync capable so thats a bonus... from GTX 960 to RX 580

**sigh**
Miners... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POWERCOLO...114285&hash=item3d39ff056f:g:nbMAAOSwONBZCmFv

 

MOTHER OF GOD. That's $821 USD. That's 1080 Ti levels of expensive. (At least before the miners arrived)

I really hope that the Zen APUs come soon, because AMD has basically the best integrated graphics ever. I know from 3 and a half years of experience.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-coffee-lake-cpu-motherboard-asrock,35147.html#4

Looks like Coffee-Lake will need new motherboards. Oh well, there goes my hope for a decent upgrade path in the future

 

If you ever wanted to consider the future again then AMD is the way to go... They are going to support the AM4 Socket for a while (longer than Intel) and GCN has the Finewine™
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Yeah but for ages their CPU performance has not been up to scratch performance or efficiency wise.. With Zen's low power draw there will be more power directed to the GPU so more GPU performance, Vega is quite efficient at low clocks (very near Nvidia 1080FE levels at 150W so when at say 50W it might overtake the 1080 efficiency) so it will be good, I really hope the Laptop CPUs are good too, like 2 Zen cores+GPU for 15W will be good and an R7 with 4 Cores and GPU would be smashing, that would compete head on with the 15W Coffee Lake CPUs that are quad cores.

Intel needs some competition in the laptop space, and some x86 Tablet CPUs are needed too, Core M prices are too damn high and the Atom line has awful performance with good efficiency but the Celeron N and Pentuim N lines being not efficient enough with only average performance at 6W TDP!

Does AMD do tablet processors? They could I suppose and God almighty I just remembered my dream, AMD and Imagination Technology teaming up with all their Graphics IP to combat the almost unstoppable ADRENO! (note that this used to be an AMD thing, hence Adreno spells out RADEON!) AMD vs Nvidia is not really feasible, Nvidia has won and has kept it that way for quite some time, with their better cards and etc but hopefully people will choose AMD for their ethics..

Now that Imagination tech is in trouble AMD probably could aquire them, at least it won't be a shite purchase like Intel buying Mcaffee

 

If I was going to get something new at this point, yeah, I'd go with R7 1700 most likely. But I got a PC like 9 months ago that emptied all my savings, so I'm not looking for anything new now or in the near future.
I was just hoping that when my 6600k at stock can't keep up, I could just stick a 6 core intel in my Z170 motherboard.
This means upgrade is new motherboard new cpu
+ Windows, because I have OEM version (and that is tied to motherboard, right?)

 

Yeah but for ages their CPU performance has not been up to scratch performance or efficiency wise.. With Zen's low power draw there will be more power directed to the GPU so more GPU performance, Vega is quite efficient at low clocks (very near Nvidia 1080FE levels at 150W so when at say 50W it might overtake the 1080 efficiency) so it will be good, I really hope the Laptop CPUs are good too, like 2 Zen cores+GPU for 15W will be good and an R7 with 4 Cores and GPU would be smashing, that would compete head on with the 15W Coffee Lake CPUs that are quad cores.

Intel needs some competition in the laptop space, and some x86 Tablet CPUs are needed too, Core M prices are too damn high and the Atom line has awful performance with good efficiency but the Celeron N and Pentuim N lines being not efficient enough with only average performance at 6W TDP!

Does AMD do tablet processors? They could I suppose and God almighty I just remembered my dream, AMD and Imagination Technology teaming up with all their Graphics IP to combat the almost unstoppable ADRENO! (note that this used to be an AMD thing, hence Adreno spells out RADEON!) AMD vs Nvidia is not really feasible, Nvidia has won and has kept it that way for quite some time, with their better cards and etc but hopefully people will choose AMD for their ethics..

Now that Imagination

Yeah I know your feeling I thought my Core i5 4690K would last at least 5 years, but it didn't so far it seems like it's going to need replacing in the next year or 2 with a shiny new RyZEN. And I spent £100 on 32GB of DDR3 a while ago so it's a shame that it's going to waste as thefe is a new RAM =(. Also my GPU isn't lasting as long as I D hoped (GTX 960) which is now struggling in games like Rise of the tomb raider where it used to handle high settings quite happily, now medium low settings have to be used to achieve that slick 60FPS.

 

I'm the same, but lower specs and will become obsolete quicker :/

 

Good for you I am using a MSI PT-890 Neo-V from 2006 with a 3.2Ghz pentium dual core overclocked to 3.52 Ghz,4GB of DDR2 1066Mhz,an AMD Radeon HD 4650 1gb

 

bah is that it, i got my grandparents to 3.7 no voltage change on an OEM Motherboard with modified Bios (well it was an Asus mobo)

 

Im proud of it.Still runs Beamng at 30fps most of the time

 

Ryzen 8 core is it worth it to start a new pc build considering my i5 costs 200(or less idk) and the ryzen chip I am looking at costs about 350 usd?
or should I go for the 12 core? mainly for beamng (I hope it performs well)

 

Budget? What are your current specs? What do you do besides BeamNG?
The RyZEN cores do much better than the FX processors, enough to run the game smoothly, but their IPC performance still lags behind Intel's.

 

Don't go 12 core unless you can justify it. That's an 800 dollar chip with 400 dollar motherboards requiring a high end watercooler

 

Budget is - starting a computer build, meaning it will be done over a period of time that I don't know yet
I don't do anything really demanding in the cpu department besides play beamng

 

Then you are probably better off with a Ryzen 5. Although unless you current CPU is causing you problems you probably have little reason to upgrade it. Just buy a new graphics card and call it a day.

 

Do not look at threadripper then. It's not intended as a gaming chip and it's alot of money just to play beamng on, it's not necessary either.

 

A Ryzen 5 is more than enough for BeamNG, so if you want to spend a little less, a Ryzen 3 is still a quad-core, and will do just as well as a modern I5. Plus, all Ryzen chips are unlocked, instantly giving that I5 a K at the end.