General computer talk/advice

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by BlueScreen, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. aljowen

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    Connecting multiple displays to one GPU shouldn't cause any issues. You can still watch stuff on the second monitor while games run on the primary display.
     
  2. Codeslamer

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    I know. I mean, my old GPU wasn't powerful enough to do both in half the games, unless I wanted to watch in like 360p
     
  3. aljowen

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    Ah, I've not ran into that issue before. For me I don't normally notice a frame rate difference since Firefox isn't GPU accelerated for most YouTube videos, but ofc the CPU takes the burden instead, meaning the videos can drop frames while gaming if I watch 1440p while playing BeamNG etc.
     
  4. C747

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    The 3600 is the best choice. Future-proof, and boasts an AMAZING architechture, and overall, better single-core performance (something crucial in BeamNG if i'm not mistaken). In some time the 3rd Gen Ryzen processors should be bashing Intel
     
  5. aljowen

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    At some price points, I would say that Intel and AMD are equal currently. They both know how well their CPU's perform against the competition and what compromises each makes, as such they both price their CPU's to fit in with the rest of the market. AMD has done a great job at becoming competitive again, but they are there out of self interest, not out of charity. Buy whatever is the best deal that you can get.

    For example, I7 9700k vs R7 3800x. Prices are similar. With Intel you get better single threaded performance, with AMD you get better multithreaded performance. So if you are building a pure gaming PC, Intel is probably the better choice, especially for high refresh rate gaming, or eSports use. Whereas if you are trying to build a well rounded "do everything (including gaming, while watching YouTube, with 20 tabs open)" PC, AMD is probably the better choice. With that said, they are both so close to each other that neither is a bad product. So if you are building a PC for yourself, AMD is probably the better option for most people currently, but if you spot a good deal on an Intel product, it may start to become a better purchase. If you are buying a prebuilt, other factors like one system having a better GPU, more RAM, or SSD storage, etc is probably more important than the difference between the above 2 CPU's. So make your choice based upon that.

    One major advantage that you get with AMD from a general consumer standpoint is that you can (sometimes) upgrade your CPU without changing your motherboard. If you are an "enthusiast" who likes to upgrade every year (aka. burn money [which to be clear is fine, its a hobby after all]) to the latest and greatest chips, this may reduce your annual expenditures considerably. If you are a normal user, no matter which I7/R7 CPU is used, its unlikely that your system will feel underpowered for gaming within the next 6 years if the past is anything to go by. By that point, the fastest chip you could upgrade to would be 3 years old anyway, at which point you are probably better off replacing everything?
     
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  6. PriusRepellent

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    Well, except for the PSU. I kept the same PSU for 10 years. It saw use in two i7 based builds, first gen and 4th gen. I got a new one not because it was starting to fail but because I wanted to avoid it getting to that point. Of course that's only an option if you got a good PSU to start with.

    Also don't forget that AMD includes coolers with CPUs at price points that Intel does not. Its a decent cooler too.
     
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  7. aljowen

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    Yeah, the included CPU cooler is a big deal if you don't intend to go after market.

    PSU's do have a limited life span, and can take out other parts with them when they fail. So I don't know if its best for them to get re-used. With that said, when I upgrade, I will only be changing the mobo, CPU, and RAM (I will probably remove the soundcard too since it would be redundant on a modern mobo). As such, I am likely to go well against my own advice there and keep the PSU going. Hopefully when it fails it will fail safely... But hey, might add a little excitement to my day in the future xD
     
  8. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Mine did, sparks and all, saw my life flash before my very eyes, 3/10 IMDB score.
     
  9. PriusRepellent

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    I'm going to want to replace my PC case soon with something easier to work with. Anyone know any good full towers? I have a Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced full tower right now, and the thing is a pain to work with (as well as getting a bit old, and has some damage).

    Also, @aljowen I've read that 10 years of use out of a PSU isn't too uncommon. That's why I let it get that old before replacing it. I also used a much higher-rated PSU than I needed so that probably helped that I wasn't stressing it much.
     
  10. redrobin

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    I found myself a smoking hot deal today.

    Picked myself up a new laptop. Dell Inspiron 15 Gaming 7577: 7700HQ, GTX 1060 Max-Q, 16GB of RAM, UHD 4K IPS screen. Came with a 128GB SATA M.2 and a 1TB mechanical drive, threw a 256GB NVMe and a 1TB 2.5" SSD in it I had laying around. Installed Windows 10 LTSC on it.

    I got it for $130. Legitimate. $130. It's a $1600 top end model in the lineup. I remember when these first came out I wanted one so bad. Well, here I am with the model I wanted but could never afford. For $130.

    Life is okay sometimes.

    I have a couple of gripes about it. The keyboard is pretty meh at best. The keys are spaced a little too far apart. It's kind of hard to describe. The travel is really short as well. It's sort of loud. It doesn't like booting to USB drives (crappy Dell BIOS for you). The keyboard backlighting is pretty dim even on the brightest setting. The touchpad is beyond terrible.

    Things I like: It's incredibly upgradable, especially for a moderately thin modern gaming notebook. Battery life is quoted 7 hours, I've yet to do some testing. If I can get more than 5 or 6 just bumbling around on the internet or doing school work, I'll be more than happy. It has Thunderbolt 3. It has tons of I/O. The screen is really bright and absolutely gorgeous. It has a number pad.

    Overall 7/10. Glad I bought it.
     
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  11. SixSixSevenSeven

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    That's quite a nice little machine. My own testing with my blade 14, 7700hq+1060 non Max Q, you should be able to reach that quoted life, but basically only allowed to web browse and not even watch video, though my testing is on the non max Q version of the GPU which is a bit power hungrier. 5-6 of bumbling should be attainable
     
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  12. Cool Username

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    ok so it's been some time since I wrote the original message, and despite all of you saying the 3600 is much better I think I'm gonna go with the 2600 and a cheaper motherboard (b450 tomahawk) because of price constraints. I would like to spend the money on other components, like a used 1080ti and a monitor with gsync. Either way, I'm gonna have to buy a lot more parts used than I thought i would, but facebook marketplace is looking pretty promising. This is gonna be my first build so advice is appreciated if you think I'm doing anything wrong. Thanks for the help guys

    Here is my build so far:
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3FKhyk
    the case, graphics card, and monitor are stand-ins right now, I'll likely get them used. I'm aiming for it to total somewhere around $850
     
  13. Jetpackturtle

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    Thicc yeet.
    My i3 died at last so I bit the bullet and bought an i7-6700k to replace it, i got it for only 100$ off facebook
    I also added 16GB of new RAM and i'm going to buy a new GPU, preferably a Vega 56.
     
  14. PriusRepellent

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    You'd be better off with an RX 5700 IMO.
     
  15. aljowen

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    Is it too soon to say rip Fitbit?

    Their death is not guaranteed, but obviously they will cease to be what makes them them now that Google owns them.
     
  16. ThatGamer164

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    I simply have to interject - i would not pay even half what my Fitbit versa is worth - it is truly a meh level product and is not worth the £200 launch price it was! Plus, from what I have seen, their products are plagued with QC issues. I had a Charge 2 before the Versa and that was by no means perfect, but one of their best products IMO- most they release just seem to have glaring issues but my charge 2 (which i bought off a friend when it was nearly 2 years old) worked as intended.
     
  17. aljowen

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    Yeah, they have a reputation for falling apart and poor build quality. Which is something that Google can fix. But Fitbits OS is probably stuffed at this point, since Google has their own watch os.

    I also can't imagine that buying Pebble was a good value proposition for Fitbit. This is really rough for anyone who had a pebble, switched to a Fitbit when they got bought and shut down, and have now been bought again.

    But I can't help but root for any smaller company that is going up against the giants. I'm just glad that I don't own a Fitbit device, because all that data now belongs to Google. I also wish that there was a non Google owned operating system for smart watches. I guess Garmin still exist though, and they do actually make some decent stuff.


    For reference, I wear a Pebble. It still does what I need, runs without any online services now that they are dead, and will hopefully do a full circle past "obsolete" to "retro" someday xD
    Hopefully the Rebble alliance can keep it compatible with new android updates.
     
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  18. PriusRepellent

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    Tizen OS is not Google.
     
  19. aljowen

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    I guess so, but Samsung produced software has never been something I have desired. That said, I haven't looked at any of their watches lately.
     
  20. PriusRepellent

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    Samsung's Gear watches are pretty good from my experience of having had one until I found out it wasn't as water resistant as I thought it was.
     
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