Getting lag with default cars

'The Terrible' has less parts to process hence your cpu doesnt have to work that hard

 

that makes sense... but when I take the same amount of parts off of the full moonhawk it still lags. Now about the processor; What is the best AMD FM2 socket processor available?

 

The best chip for the FM2 (not FM2+) is the A10 6800K, which a friend of mine has and will not get you good frames in BeamNG, or for that matter, really any CPU intensive games like GTA IV.

If you want a decent processor, you'll need a new motherboard. Go for a H97 LGA 1150 and a i5 - totals around $300 here but the LGA 1150 is a versitile socket - From Pentium to i7 4790k

 

EDIT; Found this AMD processor that uses the FM2 socket... Any good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113348


If I get a new motherboard Its gonna be an Am3 socket so I can use the AMD 8 core processor.
So, lets see;
New case(Cant place a motherboard in my current case); 20 $ min.(Could be more; I don't want a fancy light up case)
New O.S; 100+$(I cant use my copy of windows 8 with a new motherboard.)
New M/B; 100+$(depends on the motherboard... I dont need the worlds greatest motherboard...)
New Processor; 100+$(If I get the 8 core it could be more.)
everything else in my PC is pretty much up to the task, so What i listed is probably what I will need to replace.

But seriously... The A10 is much better than my current A8... Faster speed and larger cache. You sure its that horrible?

A stripped down Moonhawk(I am using a mod from the forums, I get 20-25 FPS with a default moonhawk with little interior and no bumpers,)
Is getting me 30 FPS(stripped down by no seats, no bumpers.)

would the A10 give me the FPS boost to 30 FPS with default moonhawk, and maybe 40fps with the forum modification?

 

If that's what you want, go with it. I'm not standing in your way. Just know that only overclocked FX8350s and 8320s can run the Moonhawk without troubles.

Fact is, AMD hasn't put out a competitive CPU in several years. These CPUs were real competition in 2012 with the i5 2500ks, but newer architectures run circles around these CPUs. I'm not an Intel fanboy, I want people to be aware of the other options. I've had AMD CPUs, and frankly I've never been too impressed - they get hotter than the sun and have terrible singlethreaded performance. Going from a FM2 socket to a AM3+ socket is like upgrading from a GTX 465 to a GTX 580 - it's an improvement, but not exactly up-to-date technology especially with 970s going around.

Also you don't need a new copy of Windows for a new motherboard, that's an urban myth. I've had the same copy of Windows 7 Ultimate on 3 mobos so far, and no problems.

 

**EDIT** The OS needs to be replaced, Its a prebuilt O.S. There went 130$

I will look into it a little more then. I don't have the money for Intel... I want it, but AMD is my budget... and I cant do a case modification so I need a new case... I think the AMD 8 core processor will be enough... If its specified in the requirements of the game, Then I think it would help.
So, if the OS doesnt become a problem, Then all I really need is a new processor, a new motherboard, and maybe an upgrade in RAM(I have 1600 MHz DDR3 ram in my PC.)

Is the A10 really as bad as people say it is? I want to know before I blow a couple hundred on a new m/b, processor, and O.S

 

I know that I am new to this thread, but I thought I could offer some advice. go2keys.com is great if you are willing to deal with ISOs and stuff. They give you a key, and if you pay an extra $5 or something you will get a link to the ISO. Burn the ISO to a disk or a USB stick and install it like normal Windows 7! I used it on 2 machines so far and it has worked like... Windows 7! I got Windows 7 Ultimate for £25. Can't complain. Although a couple of noteworthy things, it does take a few hours to give you the key, send them an email and they normally are quite quick about it and finally you have to activate the key ASAP or it will "go off" and not be usable, but if you miss this period, you can just ask them to extend it so you can do it again. That will save you $100 right there.

 

I will look into this... I will edit back if I think its a site for pirated Operating systems, because I don't want to use a pirated OS on a new PC.

And more news on the Moonhawk; I can run it in a map with no vegetation with about 40-60 FPS(Playable, and about 20-30 with a second car(playable)
Totally off topic question; What processor/videocard would I need to run the semi truck?(I'm not counting on running it I'm just curious what would run it with a playable 25-30 FPS.

 

AMD 8 core at 5.2GHz or Intel Haswell at 4.5GHz for 60 FPS all the time.

AMD 8 cores at 4.0GHz or Intel Haswell at 3.2GHz for 25-30 FPS

Any other AMD Chip or older intels or Haswells under 2.9GHz for single digits

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Also I stand by my statement of an intel rig. Intel mobos cost around $100, and an i5 4460 is $200 (with the inflated Canadian dollar, this is ~ 200 euros)

 

Well don't be so weary about pirated OSs (OSs? Something like that) because my dad has had a pirated copy of Windows XP Professional for about 10 years and counting!
I'm going to weigh in on the CPU thing. A LGA1150 CPU will greatly benefit BeamNG and other games, even the low end ones. If you really can't wait for the money for a new motherboard and CPU, then try a AMD Athlon x4 860, it's reasonably cheap and could give you better performance in the mean time. And I can run the T75 at 20-30FPS but because the game only uses one thread for one car, so I could run 3-4 of them still at 20-30 in theory.

 

Maybe he isnt a filthy pirate.

Your keys site isnt legit either. They are usually purchased with stolen credit card details and resold. Not only are you ripping of Microsoft*, you are ripping off an innocent person who has been a victim of fraud themselves and you are financing the continued operation of card thefts.





*, regarding ripping off microsoft. Yes they are a big company. But ultimately they are a business and businesses dont give the product away for free. Pirating is still theft of a product and no different from nicking a TV from a shop.

 

Understandable, I used to be. I do pay for my games and I only don't when 1. I can get hold of them 2. I can't afford them, but I always pay them back ASAP. I would of liked to have a legitimate OS but if I did, I would have to sacrifice a lot of things hardware wise. But I was giving that as an option, simply because why not?

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Fuck. I didn't know that. Well I will probably buy legitimate keys in the future, either that or using slmgr -rearm as many times as possible to refresh the trial.

 

My 4690K getting 60 fps with several T75's @3.9 GHz says otherwise.

 

Hmm... So what does BeamNG require? A super fast processor? or a super sized cache... Seems to me its the cache.
I am gonna invest in the best AMD 8 core I can afford, but first... Any cheap motherboards that support the required sockets?(AM3/3+)
And Im going to look into processor cooling a bit more too.

 

Cache barely makes a difference. You just need a lot of single threaded power.
AMD FX CPUs suck at single core performance, a 4690K at 3.9 GHz will easily outperform an FX-8320 at 4.8 GHz, even if the AMD has twice as many cores. All while using 50 watts less.
And no matter how much you overclock an AMD, it will still get destroyed in single threaded performance by an Intel CPU running at stock boost clocks.

 

oh so basically BeamNG is a single core processor game just like Rigs of Rods?

 

One core per vehicle.
With an AMD 8-core CPU, you won't see a performance decline with up to 7-8 vehicles, while an Intel i5 (quad-core) will suffer from performance drops after the first 4 vehicles.
However, each core in a high end i5 is much more powerful than each core from an AMD FX CPU, so any amount of vehicles, even up to 8, will most likely run better on the Intel chip.

Basically, game performance is limited by single threaded performance while the amount of vehicles you can have before slowing down is limited by thread count. Which is why the 4790K is the best of both worlds: It's got the single thread performance of an i5, but hyperthreading gives it 8 virtual threads, so it can handle up to 7-8 vehicles before performance starts to decline. However, it's no better than a 4690K for 90% of games, so not really worth the extra $100 for a gaming PC.

i7 Haswell-E chips have more cores (some go as far as 16 threads), but worse single threaded performance due to lower clock speeds, and are also very expensive and require very expensive boards, making them a less than ideal solution for a gaming PC (as you could probably spend the extra CPU money on a second GPU for SLI/CFX).

 

Should be noted. Octa core amd does experience slowdown before 8 vehicles due to the shared floating point hardware and shared cache (and likely other shared crap too) unless clocked fairly high. Intel does not experience this for hardware cores, it does for hyperthreading though (while according to some hyperthreading should allow more vehicles than no HT, its not a straight up doubling).

Ultimately though. The benchmarks thread shows consistently better results from Intel.

 

Which is why I said 7-8. You will have a very minor performance loss past 4 vehicles with an i7, or not-so-minor with an AMD octa-core. But you won't have a noticeable drop in performance until you have 7-8 vehicles depending on what vehicle it is.

 

Well, Im only after 2-3 cars at once in a field, so what would work best for a processor under 250-300$?