Current and older fwd suv roll over if pushed but i love that everyone here cant have a friendly conversion and always blame the other - - - Updated - - - You love that ibishu it seem.. Cant even flip that mid size suv in beam ng even trying hard tire just dont stick at all Only time is sliding in a hilll or something and most of the time it just slide like sliding on ice
If there would be a car that would flip it would be this one, this tall soft family hatchback and it passes the moose test with flying colors. Moose Tests are conducted at 60kph/40mph and they test to see how a car would react in a sudden avoidance maneuver. But this car was tested at 90kph, so it would have a higher likelihood to fail, but yet very few amount of cars have failed the moose test.
I can flip the D15 and Roamer on tarmac just fine. And an SUV flipping has nothing to do with it being FWD. Its taller.... It has a higher centre of gravity.... The covet centre of gravity will be at a similar height to the grandmarshal or moonhawk or other vehicles which arent too prone to rolling, not a fucking SUV.
Are you trying to learn me something? Im french if i make no sense it not because i dont understand i because i cant write it like it should :/ I was doing donut with the d15 30 sec ago on tarmac..... That super realistic Im gonna try with the ford explorer ( impossible ) - - - Updated - - - Put race tire on that not stock $ store tire...... Sure it glide arround with crappy tire The d15 with offroad tire should eat the sand grass when hitting the side road at high speed but it aint... I do understand the limitation and all. Cant be realistic as real life well nothing can be as real as reality uh something liek that That why im looking to alternative than Buying a jeep and or a new atv. Current one are RC and Beam NG and Ror if i cant start it one days without crashing but well gonna stick to beam ng
We are having a friendly conversation. You are the one that isn't cooperating. It's highly unclear what is your goal in this discussion and you don't seem to be reading what other people are trying to explain. No. The Ibishu is the only car that is close to that Nissan Micra. That's because swaybars. It limits how much the suspension will compress to prevent roll overs. Safety standards. Being French has nothing to do. Feel free to add your original message in french if you feel it would be more 'understandable' And that's what we are trying to say since ever. Stock cars have street tires. Those aren't race tires, and so they don't have the same grip. If you put the offroad tires on the Roamer, flipping it would be easier as you will have more grip. There isn't a 'limitation' on how realistic vehicles are. Just that BeamNG vehicles aren't build to flip so easily (You know, not all vehicles are built with the same specs. If a Nissan Micra flips it doesn't meant that all cars in BeamNG should flip as easily). Again I still fail what's your 'suggestion' is. Because this thread is posted under 'Ideas and Suggestions'. You want your vehicles to flip easier? Edit your wheels and add x5 more friction to tires and you are done.
What type of race tire? There are many different compounds for different uses. Also if you are going to put "racing tires" on a car you would fit the car with coilovers, stiffer sway bars, 8 point rollcage, and weight reduction. Even with race tire you will break traction and slide before you flip. The reason why the tires don't sink into the sand at high speeds is because the tires are set to 18psi allowing it to have a wider foot print letting it float over the sand. I have first hand experience going to the dunes and seeing pickups going 80mph+ over sand and taking jumps at over 40mph and not digging into the sand because of the lower psi in the tires and them keeping the momentum. I have seen vehicles flip in the sand because they hit a jump and let off the throttle making the vehicle rotate forward and having their front end hit the sand first. Everything I have said can be tested in game proving the physics correct. This is the closest you will get to real life physics in a game. I do not understand what you are trying to say here.
I dont want them to flip I want them to stick a bit better like the 2wd pickup that cant go nowhere. And the fact i can do donut with a suv is about impossible the only ways to flip it on flat surface at slow speed is to smash the Wheel with a rock or a sidewalk ( with too much power i have it should flip or something But we dont have driveshaft simulation so the body cant flex either so maybe that the reason it just spin around. ? Driveshaft flex the vehicle from the right side from the turning like hauling in real life - - - Updated - - - Currently having fun with the amd dsr at 25fps uh 7680x1440 res.. Game look awesome but well i need 2 980ti and or 2 fury x to be able to handle that res at 60fps if i enable everything.... Beam ng rule
I think we can safely end this thread. It's clear that despite five people explaining WITH PROOF exactly why OP's statements are less than true, the OP doesn't care. FWD cars don't easily flip, the Roamer does flip, although difficult to do so, and traction in-game is appropriately realistic. I mean I get it, it's a video game, it can't be 100% realistic. Hey, go right ahead and edit the vehicles, I suggest a rubber friction co-efficient of 1.5 - 1.8 to get the cars to flip easy. Do what you want, have fun. This can only evolve into an argument. Let's keep it civil.
Doesn't seems impossible. If a few SUV flips, it doesn't mean that all SUV must flip. The D15 is an 80' truck with 2WD and street tires. That variant isn't meant to offroad or go over grassy hills (grass is slidy)
Well all of those video just show people trying to drift not to flip... Can do the same shit on my atv and i can flip if i want to... Swing left right with one of those truck and i can garantee you it on it side im sure So now where do i change the tire setting ? I mod the engine file but never seen what was the tire one - - - Updated - - - the beam ng truck could not climb that - - - Updated - - - Twin turbo weedeater
Im taking a wild guess here, but im guessing you have never driven a car or driven a car at its limits. Suv's don't just flip they need something that disrupts the vehicles like hitting something or getting hit. Atv's are very different than any car or suv, atv's have a very high center of gravity and they are skinny and very short in length. You can control the weight bias on an atv by moving your body, so of course you can flip it if you want to. How do you think you would initialize a slide in a suv? You do a Scandinavian flick.
Are you basing that actual facts or just on the 'I'm sure' part? Because I hear enough of that when I have to deal with the 'Cars drives like on Ice' posts already. People thinking they are vehicle engineers just because they played GTA or so. As I said before, it strictly depends on the kind of truck/suv vehicle. Not all of them are the same. If one flips, it doesn't mean all of them MUST flip (The 3rd time I repeat myself..) Gabester probably built the Gavril Roamer with the idea of a safe SUV, not a brick that would flip at the first curve. And ATV has nothing to do. It doesn't have anything to do with a SUV or a Pickup. It's much ligther and the drivers weight-transferring does a big difference on it. roamer_wheels_R.jbeam roamer_wheels_F.jbeam There are 'Tire options' section in which you set pressure and tire friction. Have you tried that in BeamNG already? A similar inclined cliff with a 'gravel' groundmodel on it? If yes, please provide proof with a video.
Well the map with the Small raceways and little jump the 2wd car all of them always get stuck in the hill if you slow down at all.... but it being a long time. And with the pigeon well you cant go nowhere and it should be able to go offroad it weight the same as a side by side im sure and even more
Judging from that I'd dare to say the inclination is around 15° (EDIT- Actually it's around 12°, measure it by myself from a video frame of the second video. The first video has too much lens distortion on it, but it looks like similar). Here some tests on 3 different grounds: Asphalt, Gravel and Grass. Start from a full stop on a 18°. No problems gettin over them Now this is getting ridiculous. You jumped from crappy FWD hatches, to overloaded trucks doing wheelies, then SUVs flipping. Now you are blaming the pigeon for not being able to go offroad? Are you aware that the pigeon is like an ape-car and those things are not meant to go offroad at all. It's a 50cc bike on 3 wheels. Extremely slow and low-powered. Those things barely manage to drive on an uphill asphalt road (I see plenty of them here..), seeing them offroading is out of this world. If we are done turning around this non-existant point of discussion, we can end it here.
bonami2 have you ever driven a car? Have you ever driven a car to its limits? Have you driven a car past its limits? From what I can tell you have never driven a car from the claims you have. Where are you pulling your ridiculous handling claims from?
Those european car and small engine crap are used offroad everywhere in the world on youtube... Like the european thing with 8 hp that mythbuster tried their are people doing offroad with that on youtube because it all they have.. Even people mudding with lawnmower.. I drove about 7 different car and no i did not push any of them very hard because well not one of them is mine yet. My atv though jump and it beat... All im trying to says is tire dont have the traction they should.... all i got is it perfect.......... We are in real life here and nothing it perfect and of what i seen it was not... But the last video show the pickup having no problem so i have no idea if since the last time i drove one they got updated... But all i know is the fwd car as better traction than the rwd pickup offroad wise and that make no real sense because the truck is heavier.. Sure the back is empty. but it still heavier it about 6000-7000lbs And there are still crappy car brand new on the market for poor country... This thing is illegal in north america because in every crash test your dead..... Thank you for doing the video... I understand youtube is crap for compression i tried uploading a bug that i have on amd gpu even my cousin agreed that we saw it both but i could not reproduce it on video - - - Updated - - - Even that crap can wheelie doing the retard
Take the shock absorbers out of a car and you can make it bounce in the air. Try it yourself with the parts menu. You keep posting videos of exceptional cars and exceptional situations (modified, broken, or just a completely different type of car as your original argument) and claiming it is normal. Use some common sense.
Search 'SUV flips while doing donuts' and that's what you'll get Search 'SUV doing donuts' and you will find much much less videos of an SUV flipping You're biasing yourself m8
