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How many cars can your pc handle at once?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by JDMClark, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. Cardinal799

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    I am usually getting to about 120F on my CPU under my *stupidly long* sessions of around 8 hours. I don't know what prime95 does. Please explain?
     
  2. LSDMT420

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    Prime95 is a stress tester, it's designed to completely max out your CPU. You can use it as a tool for testing your OC, if your processor gets to hot, or your computer blue screens, then you know you need to make some adjustments.

    BTW, it looks like the max temp on your CPU is 70C, so your temps actually look good.
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-FX-Series FX-6100.html
     
  3. Cardinal799

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    My Graphics card gets to about 150F, or about 60C, I think? But I think that I am still a ways off from max temps (bad temps). and I will try out Prime 95. If I crash, do I increase voltage? Or do I increase the overclock?
     
  4. LSDMT420

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    If you crash without bad temps start increasing voltage in .05 increments until you no longer crash. Once you are stable at your current clock you can try to raise it until your happy with your temps, and your machine does not crash. Just be sure to keep an eye on your temp's with prime, it will fry your CPU if you let it get to hot.
     
  5. Cardinal799

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    Wait, check it with Prime, or check it while using prime? Also, Jane's Addiction is playig on my radio right now :3 yesh
     
  6. LSDMT420

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    Just leave a program like realtemp open when your running prime, you just need to make sure it will not go over your max temp.
     
  7. Bubbleawsome

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    Protip; Read some guides on places like anandtech or toms. It kinda sounds like you could use the help.
     
  8. Cardinal799

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    I just assumed that as long as the computer doesn't A.) Blow up OR B.) Catch on fire; then it would be fine. I am very very cautious when it comes to special things like my computer.
     
  9. AirSKiller

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    Please, don't OC if you don't know what the hell you're doing!

    Plus, if you barely use your PC over 30% CPU usage, why OC??
    With OC @4.7GHz you reach 30% usage, without OC doing the exact same thing, let's say @4.0GHz, you would get like 40% usage, it will change absolutely nothing since you're not even close to max it out!
    Please don't argue with me because you're not even making a point, you saying the the PC is faster with OC even if you're not reaching its limits?? How the hell does that work?
    Your CPU will make the calculations it needs at any certain time the fastest it can, if you are using 50% than it means that, at that time, it only is doing half the calculations it could, if you OC, you increase the number of calculations you can make in a certain period of time. The time it takes to do let's say 1000000 calculations with OC will be almost exactly the same as doing the same 1000000 calculations without OC if those 1000000 calculations are only 50% of what the CPU can handle.

    You would only notice the difference if you often reached 100% (or close) of CPU usage (even if it's only in one of the cores), but you can't even reach it because your damn PC fries!!

    EDIT: Please please please, if you OC your CPU, run Prime, it puts a load of 100% on your CPU, basically the maximum it would ever reach, if it can handle it for about 5 hours, it's fine. But if you see high temps or voltages or it crashes, or fails the test, or your cat sneezes or whatever, JUST TURN OF THE GOD DAMN COMPUTER AND CHANGE YOUR OC!!! Thank you :)
     
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  10. RobertGracie

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    Thanks for putting in some Sanity into this topic I think everyone owes you big time here man

    (700th Post!!!)
     
  11. Bubbleawsome

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    You are wrong. If one core is 100% loaded it will be faster with an overclock. An overclock is faster with any amount of load. If it is 100% loaded it is faster. If all cores are 25% loaded it will be faster. Please do not spread this misinformation. Also, you need to read a guide, there are many ways to test stability and sometimes temps are not important to most people. (AVX2 for example) Prime95, IBT, and linpack all put different loads on the CPU.
     
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  12. Cardinal799

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    I know what I am doing. I may not know how to do it perfectly, but I think it is easy to change two things in BIOS. I will try the Prime thing, and I will adjust if needed. I can clearly tell a difference between 25 FPS on Dry Rock at 3.3GHz, with only 40% load, and 40 FPS at 3.8-3.9GHz, with 40% load. No, it is not my graphics card, because I have seen and have a personal experience with it, where it gets 60 FPS at max settings. I know that AMD is not as good as Intel, but AMD is cheaper (I don't have loads of money), and it can get to a close level of performance to Intel when overclocked, so they balance out IMO. I thought that overclocking would be a lot harder than it was, but I only had 2 settings to change.

    I don't play with more than one car normally, and IMO as long as I can get more FPS and my CPU isn't overheating, I will accept it.

    Just because I don't do this in the exact way that you are supposed to, doesn't mean I shouldn't do it. I was able to get the overclock to work to what I will use it for without anything tragic happening, so until something bad may happen, I can keep it like this. Bubbleawesome isn't telling me that I HAVE to do it a different way, and he is a folder. I know that he has experience with this stuff, because from what I have seen, he has been putting his computer to work. I don't usually ever do things the way that they have to be done in the instructions, unless if it will render the whole thing useless. I do things my own way, and for now, it works. :)
     
  13. Bubbleawsome

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    I actually do not own an overclockable proc, I just have used a few. :p
    Just a last thing before I take a break, make sure to watch the vcore. I've never used amd for long, but intel has voltage spikes with avx loads. I wouldn't pass 1.4vcore for longevity.
     
  14. Cardinal799

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    Remember, I am not fluent in Tecnologese. What is vcore, and AVX?
     
  15. RobertGracie

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    The only true time when we get to push this game to the max is when its converted to run 64-bit and that 16, 32 or even those on this forum have pcs running 64GB become usable...when the 64-bit conversion happens is planned and its gonna be several releases away but then we can get a true measure of this game on your computers...until then the bottleneck in this game is the 32-bit logic its based on only allowing 4GB of accessible memory...

    I hope that makes some sense to you all...

    if not...err...can someone simplify what I am trying to say...maybe one of the Mods or one of the Administrators please...
     
  16. Bubbleawsome

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    Avx is a type of program (is it a decompiler or code specific?) that runs on new intel CPUs. It can be much faster, but it increases stress in the CPU. Vcore is the voltage running through the CPU.
     
  17. Cardinal799

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    Okay, I am going to Prime now. So, what is the least amount of time that is needed to prove if it is stable or not? Am I allowed or should I be doing things on the computer while Priming? I won't do BeamNG, because I don't need to be under 140% load (Impossible, I know).
     
  18. Cardinal799

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    Okay, already crased. Guess I'll message from my phone lol. if you want to skype me bubble, to guide me through, I recommend messaging me.
     
  19. Bubbleawsome

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    I use prime to monitor temps mostly. A combo of ram tests, gaming scenarios, and pure death runs should do it. For my chip (if it overclocked) and usage I would run f@h bench for 24 hours, memtest for a full test (12 hours), IBT for 4 hours or so, then prime until temps stabilized, then go on to gaming. The only reason I would use this (very strict) testing is because I need rock-solid stability for folding, it can not error out even if it is a soft error.
    Anyways, for your chip I would run prime for a while, memtest for a pass or two and then game. If it crashes you just dial back a bit. No damage done unless the voltage gets too high.
     
  20. Cardinal799

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    Is it normal for the 8 BSOD to stay at 100% for a while? I probably should let it restart itself, right? Or do I have to restart it?
     
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