How NOT to slide in Beamng

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  1. Babcia

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    Okay, since it's winter and it's snowing I've been practising sliding and maintaing control on snow. I have FWD car so it's pretty simple - rear is sliding -> countersteer and add some throttle. Now I'm repeating same thing in Beamng Drive using Ibishu Covet on ETK Driving Centre. And car seems to behave the same as in real life.

    But I'm wondering how should I do this with RWD car. I'm testing Ibishu 200bx but if I countersteer too much the car just slides to the outside. Or if I try to use throttle to keep me in lane I just spin out.

    How should I regain control with RWD cars? I love drifting with 200bx but I have no idea how to control it on wet surface.
     
  2. Cheekqo

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    Attempt to counteract the oversteer before the angle of the car spinning out is too great for the car's steering angle to manage. Note that a steering wheel with FFB is best for this.
     
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  3. LeSpecialist01

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    to much wheel spin at low speed will make you loose control, drift steering would help for sure.
     
  4. SebastianJDM

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    you want to countersteer before the car spins, but not so far that it whips around. also, keep your foot in it, because the rear wheels gripping up will snap you into the direction of the countersteer (which may be mistaken for over-correcting but it's more of an issue with throttle)

    too much throttle = spin inwards
    not enough throttle = spin outwards
    too much steering = less angle
    not enough steering = more angle
     
  5. Slammington

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    Also keep in mind that steering input is likely to be somewhat delayed in BeamNG. So try to correct the slide slightly before you see it happen.
     
  6. Danny Werewolf

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    How not to slide in BeamNG: Stay inside and don't drive anywhere.
     
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  7. fufsgfen

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    Just clutch in at the moment slide occurs, that is the safest way.
     
  8. ItsJustCurtis

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    Controlling a skid in a rwd car is quite different to fwd. To understand you need to understand how the forces apply to the car. In a FWD car applying throttle will push the front end fowards. In the event of a skid, this will pull the front end back in front of the rear axle, straightening the car. In a RWD car however, applying throttle pushes the rear wheels, in a skid, this makes the problem worse as the rear of the car pushes even harder to overtake the front axle, causing a spin. To control it you need to come off the throttle and allow the engine braking to slow the rear of the car down. You need to ease off the throttle gently though, suddenly letting go will cause the rear axle to suddenly gain traction, causing a fishtail spin (where the car suddenly snaps to the outside of the corner). Ideally feathering the throttle whilst gently easing off will allow you to control the slide until it straightens up. Maintaining this balance of feathering the throttle to hold the slide is essentially the backbone of drifting.

    If you like I can create a video demonstrating this with my throttle, brake and steering input to show you how its done?
     
  9. Lucaas

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    @Babcia
    How NOT to pick your profile picture in Beamng

    OT: perfect setup = perfect whatever you wanna do.
     
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    Profile picture isnt what we wanna talk about here. people can put whatever they want.

    Also, perfect setup doesnt = perfect whatever.
    Skills gets you where ever.
    I have the least perfect setup and yet i do whatever i wanna do.

    Depending on how much throttle you give the car will make it slide more. its a bit of a mix between throttle control and some counter steering.
    Honestly practicing this for a few hours is pretty much THE way to get a hold of it.
    Practice makes perfection.
     
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    My personal advice: get a miramar GTz (most RWD cars work, I just personally find it to be really predictable), and hoon it around on gridmap for a while(again, I think gridmap is good because there's a lot of open space, so you won't crash as easily, that means that you can keep moving the car to different areas of the map and try different environments/obstacles). try to get the thing to do some nice wide slides, that will teach you the basics of counter-steer in RWD. after that, try picking specific lines (e.g. just make the front wheel get close to the corner of a grassy patch) and adjusting the amount of angle to point the car correctly. after that, i would then suggest trying it on actual roads.
     
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    That is a beautiful profile picture and she looks just like my dear old Bubba Nevinka in my homeland of Hrvatska enjoying a smoke after the World Cup finals
     
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    1. Twas'a joke.
    2. If you practice the skill with the wrong setup, then you're learning the wrong way. And it makes it that much harder to re learn it the correct way.
     
  14. fufsgfen

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    Guys, OP did want to know how not to slide, not how to slide.
     
  15. SebastianJDM

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    granny shift dont double clutch
     
  16. ItsJustCurtis

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    Only a short video, but this should help you see how different inputs affect the car.
     
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  17. fufsgfen

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    Just clutch in and wait, cars are designed like that, it stops the slide.

    That is taught on traffic schools on areas where most of the year one has to drive under slippery conditions.

    Also worth to remember, public road is not a fun theme park of racing variety, one is supposed to leave lot of room for errors, those errors might be what someone else makes, so staying far from limits of grip is way to drive on public roads.

    It is incredible high number of accidents that happen when someone has attempted to have fun.
     
  18. liujiaming

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    Countersteer and apply throttle. if continue sliding, brake a bit and then apply throttle. If the problem do not get solved, just try to spop
     
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