I think I'm ready for gaming hardware suggestions.

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by MisterKenneth, Sep 30, 2018.

  1. PriusRepellent

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    Xeons are not meant for single thread performance but for multithread as they are workstation and server class CPUs. A server gains relatively little benefit from single thread, but a lot from multi. The Xeon also supports ECC memory, again for server and workstation use cases where data is critical. Using a Xeon for gaming would in most cases be bad for performace per dollar because they are not geared up for that type of use. There are of course exceptions, but very few.

    I should also note that the Ryzen is an interesting CPU in that it can in theory serve as both a good value workstation CPU, and gaming CPU. If ECC is needed then the Threadripper is good for that.

    All in all, I would avoid Xeons as they are worse value than Ryzens for any use case that I can see.
     
  2. Alex [ITA]

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    Of course, I was just making an example of a low GHz CPU that is extremely more powerful than a higher frequency one. Xeons are not designed for gaming (with some exceptions tho).
     
  3. MisterKenneth

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    Alright, I'll go ahead and get the Ryzen 7 2700X instead. If I read those sites correctly, it had some pretty good performance scores.

    So, are you all suggesting that GHz speed isn't important? Taking in what all you guys are saying, I'm starting to feel lied to. Not by you guys, but by the companies who produce and sell the CPUs and the game developers who would tell you that you need more than X GHz to run their game at its best, and anything lower than X will make it run like garbage.

    I'm simply trying to go by what's recommended on Steam for Cities and BeamNG, which I'll go ahead and post pictures of.
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    Here's an updated list.
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mJkx8Y
     
  4. Jetpackturtle

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    Yes, GHZ is not a large factor in overall CPU performance anymore. You kinda just have to know where your chip stands versus others and go with that.

    Steam hardware requirements are pretty much trash imo.
     
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    Alright, let me take a looksy... Oh yes... Mmmm, I see...

    Yup, okay, we can do better here. The performance per dollar just isn't there. That GPU is old, and unless you need things like Hyper-V and group policy management and 2TB of ram, you don't need Windows 10 Pro. I also see a Western Digital hard drive. Ugh. Eww. Yuck. Are you trying to lose your data? $16 to ship a Chinese CPU cooler? I don't think so.

    Here's what we're changing. We're going to a Hyper 212 Black RGB, upgrading you to an RTX 2060, and completely rethinking your storage. You now have a 1TB Seagate FireCuda (the exact drive I use) and a 512GB Inland Professional PCIe M.2 SSD (the exact same one I use). Inland drives are manufactured by SanDisk. We dropped you down to Windows 10 Home because you really REALLY don't need Pro.

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Jv8pG
     
  6. MisterKenneth

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    Originally I wasn't really sure what GPU I needed so I picked the GeForce GTX 1070 from fufsgfen's list. I picked the Western Digital HDD because that's what I upgraded to after my laptops original Toshiba hard drive failed. For Windows 10, I wasn't 100% sure if I needed/wanted pro or not. Don't know if it has any special features that would interest me. The reason I chose that fan is because I was going for a red/black theme, and it was before I saw the $16 shipping (there was a time where there was no listed price and shipping on the item), but I'm thinking that I'm probably going to abandon that red/black theme so that my choices on parts can be a bit more free.
     
  7. redrobin

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    Yeah, I wouldn't really recommend doing anything he says, really. The price to performance with the fixed build is much better.
     
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  9. PriusRepellent

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    The Vega 64 is the successor to the R9 Fury X, which itself is a powerful card. Its power hungry, but the raw compute power for the dollar is epic. Its good for gaming, but thats not its real strength. GPGPU capability is where high end Radeons really shine. A 980 Ti is what my Fury X competed against, and for compute power, said 980 Ti got destroyed. The 1080 Ti is a lot faster for gaming than the Fury X, but still isnt quite as good for raw compute.
     
  10. Jetpackturtle

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    WD drives are fine, that's only your opinion.
     
  11. redrobin

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    My stack of 15 dead WD drives determines that is a lie.

    Ironically, the only drives that haven't died in my possession are Toshiba, pre-WD Hitachi, and Conner, which are all infamously unreliable. I'd rather trust my data to Vladimir Putin over a WD hard drive.

    At least they make nice SSDs, but that's only because they had to buy SanDisk since they can't make a reliable drive them damn selves.
     
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  12. Jetpackturtle

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    That's funny, I've just had my first WD drive die after 13 years. I own 7 others that are 7+ years old and still going.
     
  13. MisterKenneth

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    Recent developments: I didn't say anything sooner, but I went ahead and got the CPU, GPU, and monitor first since they were the most expensive components on my list. Today they just arrived, and now I'm waiting on my monitor. I got my Ryzen 7 2700X and GeForce RTX 2060 on Walmart.com, and my monitor on Amazon.

    EDIT: I think my question has been answered.
     
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  14. alexelcaza

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    Yes the 2700x comes with a pretty decent cooler
     
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    I have a question, since I think my Ryzen 7 2700X came with a fan, am I going to need the one I picked for my list?
     
  16. alexelcaza

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    you wont need it but it would be better than the stock cooler
     
  17. Jetpackturtle

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    No
     
  18. MisterKenneth

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    Recent developments: I almost have all of the parts I need, and then it'll be time for it to be put together.

    I think I may have run into an issue though. During the Steam Summer Sale I got Space Engineers, and when reading its requirements, for a processor it recommends an Intel Quad Core i7 @ 4.5 GHz or higher. My Ryzen 7 2700X only has 3.7 GHz. Now what? :confused:
     
  19. alexelcaza

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    dont worry about it i have space engineers and it runs locked at 120 fps on my FX 8350 unless there is a huge battle going on or im crashing a ship into a planet
     
  20. MisterKenneth

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    Are you sure? I looked up the FX 8350 and the results I saw suggests it has 4.0 - 4.2 GHz on it. The Ryzen 7 2700X I got only has 3.7 GHz on it. If those results were correct, your GHz gap is much smaller than mine.
     
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