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If BeamNG makes it to Steam, do we have to pay AGAIN?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by DOOMILES, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. logoster

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    not for me, it just says that it failed to connect to the internet/steam server's, with the OK button, i click it, it just closes
     
  2. tdev

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    yet to be decided.
     
  3. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Its been this way since steam first released. I've had steam on 5 of my own machines and its always been this way?

    The only time you do not get that prompt in my experience is when you have gone into the settings and set steam to *not* store credentials locally, because then it doesnt know how to handle any DRM checking without an internet connection.
    https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=3160-agcb-2555


    Also if you appent "ForceOfflineMode=Enable" to steam.cfg it will attempt to launch into offline mode automatically rather than online mode, regardless of connection (although the local credential restriction still applies). This is how I took the above screenshot.
     
  4. NkosiKarbul

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    Good job ignoring the fact that using steam in offline mode is as usefull as sitting on a bicycle without pedals, its uncomfortable and you dont get anywhere...
    Its frikking useless.

    edit: im aware that you guys only spoke about how to enter the offline mode and not about its use, but i allways feel bothered if i have to use it.
    Just wondered why nobody mentioned its uselessness. XD
     
    #24 NkosiKarbul, Mar 1, 2014
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  5. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Lets me launch steamworks DRM'ed games offline? Skyrim wont launch for me without steam running so there is an immediate reason to have steam offline mode, to play skyrim without an internet connection. Considering I have a highly intermittent internet connection I often end up launching steam in offline mode, many of my games will not launch without steam running.
     
  6. NkosiKarbul

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    Yes indeed, but that isn't realy an advantage, is it? Its more like a thing you are enforced to do, while you gain nothing from it, which is, from a users point of view, useless. As there is no game copyprotection that would withstand an attempt to crack it, not even the ones that need you to be connected to their server, these mechanisms are nothing more than customer duress imo.
     
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  7. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Ok, how much hassle is it to launch steam in offline mode? None at all. Steam is a startup program on both of my current machines, if it cant establish a network connection it goes straight to offline mode. From there, click skyrim, done. That is considerably *less* hassle than methods of bypassing the steam requirement for most games. I only did the config hack to get it to go to offline mode above because I had a large download running so couldnt simply disconnect from the internet to take 1 screenshot, otherwise I wouldnt have to do that.

    I dont know what planet an automated process is duress, yet finding a crack tool isn't?
     
  8. NkosiKarbul

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    ... seriously? It is not about the "stress" to start a process, but about the fact that you are forced by a company to use a third party software just for DRM reasons, while you want to use another software(the game).
    The more people dont give a fuck to be enforced to use certain stuff while intending to use totaly unrelated software instead, the more companys might think it is ok to enforce people to do all kind of crap. How good that works we saw on the platform Origin.
    I mentioned cracks to visualize how useless the reason they use to do this is. As DRM does not work in any known way, it has absolutly no logical reason to enforce your customer to do something like this. While you should never enforce your customer to do something you expect anyway, but nowadays customers dont seem to care.
    On which planet, is a rich group of foreign people with near-monopole status that enforce you to use their product for no logic or valuable reason no concern for the customer? Earth!
     
    #28 NkosiKarbul, Mar 1, 2014
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