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Is car culture dying?

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by St3v3th3d0g, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Codeslamer

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    Not only that, but you can spend 1-2000 on it for 1 year, (at my age atleast), get into a crash which was someone else's fault, and have the insurance try and write off your car for not even close to it's actual value. Even if the car is barely damaged atall.
    That, and there are alot of, probably 100+ year old drivers, who can't see over the wheel and have no attention to anything atall, who think that they can all drive as well as the day they got their licence
     
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  2. Kэλs

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    I don't think its really dying, but its the rich people who keep it alive. It sOOOOO expensive
     
  3. nojang153

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    It’s slowly starting to die out because you practically need a master’s in comp sci to do anything to a modern car
     
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  4. Slammington

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    Buy an old car then. Tax and insurance is cheap, and it's easy to modify and repair. Older cars are more fun anyway, since they generally provide a more direct driving experience :)
     
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  5. Kэλs

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    NOT VOLVO unless its a sleeper
     
  6. Slammington

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    I don't see why not. The 240, for example, is cheap, reliable, and very fun to drive.
     
  7. Kэλs

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    lets just say that cheap volvo in nfs 2015 ruined volvo for me ;) Not for drifting
     
  8. Slammington

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    Of course NFS won't accurately represent any car. The 240 is a very good car for drifting as it has a long wheelbase and plenty of weight over the front axle. Of course the lack of power means you won't be spinning the rear wheels like a 700hp Corvette, but a skilled driver can effortlessly drift a volvo :)

    Regardless, if you drift cars on a public road you deserve anything that happens to you. I know it sounds harsh, but racing and drifting is for the track, not the road. You can have plenty of fun without breaking speed limits or laws :)
     
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  9. Kэλs

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    Really its just that one volvo in nfs ;) also the colors that the ai have when using that car ;)
    I would own a 240 though
     
  10. Codeslamer

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    While old cars are generally better in everyway, in the UK most older cars are more expensive to tax and insure than an older one of the same equivilant. Atleast for younger drivers. Insurance companies genreally don't want to deal with the potential mistakes that new drivers might make, so they make it as difficult as possible for them to get a car on the road. To the point where full cover insurance is actually MORE expensive than less cover.

    I'm curious as to how the insurance elsewhere tackles convertables though. Mainly because I see alot of people in America consider an MX5 (Miata for you) a great, fun first car. Yet over here, since it's a convertable, its pretty much a big nope. As most people can't afford the insurance for one when they start driving
     
  11. Slammington

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    UK insurance sounds like a proper pain in the arse. I suppose it makes sense when you look at how young people drive, especially "chavs".
    I don't know about the rest of the world, but in Portugal insurance is generally quite cheap, and it gets even cheaper for older cars, regardless of the driver's age. A new driver would pay about 400 euro/year for insurance on a 20 year old supermini, more or less. A hot hatchback of the same era, such as a Citroen AX GTi, would get up to 500 a year maybe.

    Experienced drivers (I believe 25+ years old) with classic cars can pay as little as 50 euro/ year for insurance :) Of course, the downside is that cars are fucking expensive. It's just cheap to insure and tax them.
     
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  12. nosraenyr kcirtap kcin

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    Do you have a tax on gas if not than I'm moving there with a IROC.
     
  13. Slammington

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    We have a massive tax on gas. That's why we pay such high prices for fuel; within a matter of months you'd spend your car's value in fuel alone.
     
  14. DirtNastySidewayZ

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    Im a car guy. We have a passion. I dont see your problem. I dont force my view on people, i inform them of alternitives like a manual transmission and drivetrain options. please stop being such a dickhead.
     
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  15. nosraenyr kcirtap kcin

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    Never mind.
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    That's not changing the fact that normal people looking at us from a outside view see that we're all just big assholes.
     
  16. Slammington

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    That depends. People who hoon cars and drive like maniacs on public roads are seen as assholes by 99% of car enthusiasts, as well as the outside world. However, people who just like classic cars, for example, are generally seen as sensible and tasteful folks by anyone :)
     
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  17. nosraenyr kcirtap kcin

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    Yeah but Hate spreads faster than love.
     
  18. Slammington

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    Once again that depends. Hate and love are completely internalized, some people see all car enthusiasts as assholes, and some people see things objectively :)
     
  19. nosraenyr kcirtap kcin

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    Some just some see us as nice people I see most popular car enthusiasts are assholes.
     
  20. Slammington

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    Can you name a few of those popular car enthusiasts?