Old or modern?

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  1. CrimsonCrocodile

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    Who said it was the last car produced? It's just the last car currently in-game...
     
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  2. ManfredE3

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    Maybe time travel
    Maybe RoR vehicles, which did have modern Gavrils
    Maybe they sell lawn mowers
    The possibilities are endless
     
  3. zarak82

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    It's early days for me, but so far my favourite car is the Burnside Special in it's basic configuration. I've enjoyed cloning it, setting it to flee, and just following it around and that.

    I do generally prefer lower power cars. IRL the most powerful car I've owned was only a 1.6 litre petrol/75 bhp jobbie. I would love to see a few more 50s/60s/70s basic family cars in Beam. As I lack any sort of creative spark, that might not happen.
     
  4. _Diamond_Coal_

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    I want to say, that BeamNG.drive needs modern cars.
     
  5. tobias95ng

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    i guess u can get a truck a bus and brick it with baterys but i can get also an Fuel truck so this answere has no depth

    wrong its caused because the internals of electric engines are not possible to cool so it cools itselve by mass but
    but that contradicts a small design in contradiction and elecrtric parts are generaly critical to heat damage and not that durable if you want performance the tesla power electronics count how often you use the luratyc mode (or wat ever it is called) then you need to replace a part of the power electrics to use it ever again

    On German Autoban all day even my 325ci with 192 hp reach 155mph

    QUOTE="MrAnnoyingDude, post: 1044432, member: 156264"]Not that much in many cases.[/QUOTE]
    meaningless answer

    I ned one for that
    rotary engine 4 stroke 2 stroke 1,2,4,5,6,8,10,12,16 zyliner in W, V, I, Or Boxer coonfiguration with single dual caburator or for each zylinder
    mechanical ijektion, electric injection direc injrction ec. G-Carcer, Sipercarcer or singele vi or E-Turbo,
    I can count on varety wich each one impacts the feeling, Performance and sound of an car i can call you the engine by hearing their music out of the intake and their exhaust

    you can compare it with muting an live rock concert that speaks for it selve

    no feelnig is no feeling if all your senses get removed what you hear and feel in a pure car then you get removed that feeling it is the gone

    gues wy i buy old cars and wuy they want to remove a big part of them with an abwrakprämie here in germany
    2007 the car industry got into a cryces becase everyone had a good car and had no reason to buy a new one they dont want a stagnating market there it was the time they wanted everyone to move to an diesel (and now 10 years later it gets repeated and you can see this on the satistics this is no aluminium hood speaking).

    But a big one because it involves you in the whole driving expirience even mor it does exactly that wat you iputs the car (gues wy they shift in numorous times in the fast and the furious films unrealisticaly often and buy the way with some shift techniques you have far more control over the car overal)

    well you are the cruser type this would fit an old muscle car boat well i like that driving style too from time to time

    did i say that of course it is important but usually you have many more options
    Play NFS underground or My summer car to understand this a litle bit if u arent used to work on your car.
    and weight ditribution ist realy possible because the heavyst part are the baterys. anyway.

    Did i say miles ?
    I spoke about he chemical disintegration of baterys over time this dont only hapens by use but way more by not using it
    and the optimal use of baterys is between 15 and 80% if u use the battery between this % full and optimal then you get that milage but you need basicaly drive each day its astimated range au 80% lower is bad because each time you load it u waste 1 loading cycle doesnt matter how much u used it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_battery (wikipedia is more neutral and free of hype and advertising) if you dont use your capacyty full each day is bad 1 deapth carc to coplete emty and they are brocken they they dont realy forgive your personal use behavior and they dont care. (And i recently brock the batery on my bmw by dont recarcing it over the winter so it got

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    Not using it is bad
    And over using it (so it gets stressed and hot) is bad.
    obtimal usage between EST. 15-80 procent

    Not possible with the same batery ahat is basycaly yor leading crtical
    (and moust expensicve,recource itensive andenviormet damaging) power souce.
    On an ICE your leading critical Power source is your Engine.

    I did say how it is and you made it Black and White. #drawer thinking


    Well this technology in the video erases the man point with that the E-cars gets advertised.
    and Make you current car the leading enviormental technic wich would further found those co2 capturing power plants.

    well maby he put to much money in it and regrets it now nowbadi know
    A lot of that we do is initiated by outher
    is it realy good our realy wrong do we see if we have done it by our selves.

    (or it gets trown to africa on an toxic batery garbage jard so the fewesd of us can see it by person)

    I need to stop now it is late.


    i think i need to put my allerts out.
     
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  6. 98crownvic

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    I'm not going to take the time or effort to respond to all of your points as it wouldn't be worth my time, you seem unwilling to change your opinion. I will say that this 'crysces' for car companies in 2007/2008 wasn't because there was no need to buy a new car, the entire economy crashed.
     
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  7. Fera

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    A few answers:
    • Said dealership is a historic building and is preserved (I doubt it).
    • Former Gavril Dealership, now a museum for Gavril vehicles.
    • There will be a modern Gavril at some point (2014 Roamer from the concept list?).
     
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  8. waboll

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    meaningless answer


    I ned one for that
    rotary engine 4 stroke 2 stroke 1,2,4,5,6,8,10,12,16 zyliner in W, V, I, Or Boxer coonfiguration with single dual caburator or for each zylinder
    mechanical ijektion, electric injection direc injrction ec. G-Carcer, Sipercarcer or singele vi or E-Turbo,
    I can count on varety wich each one impacts the feeling, Performance and sound of an car i can call you the engine by hearing their music out of the intake and their exhaust


    you can compare it with muting an live rock concert that speaks for it selve


    no feelnig is no feeling if all your senses get removed what you hear and feel in a pure car then you get removed that feeling it is the gone


    gues wy i buy old cars and wuy they want to remove a big part of them with an abwrakprämie here in germany
    2007 the car industry got into a cryces becase everyone had a good car and had no reason to buy a new one they dont want a stagnating market there it was the time they wanted everyone to move to an diesel (and now 10 years later it gets repeated and you can see this on the satistics this is no aluminium hood speaking).


    But a big one because it involves you in the whole driving expirience even mor it does exactly that wat you iputs the car (gues wy they shift in numorous times in the fast and the furious films unrealisticaly often and buy the way with some shift techniques you have far more control over the car overal)


    well you are the cruser type this would fit an old muscle car boat well i like that driving style too from time to time


    did i say that of course it is important but usually you have many more options
    Play NFS underground or My summer car to understand this a litle bit if u arent used to work on your car.
    and weight ditribution ist realy possible because the heavyst part are the baterys. anyway.


    Did i say miles ?
    I spoke about he chemical disintegration of baterys over time this dont only hapens by use but way more by not using it
    and the optimal use of baterys is between 15 and 80% if u use the battery between this % full and optimal then you get that milage but you need basicaly drive each day its astimated range au 80% lower is bad because each time you load it u waste 1 loading cycle doesnt matter how much u used it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_battery (wikipedia is more neutral and free of hype and advertising) if you dont use your capacyty full each day is bad 1 deapth carc to coplete emty and they are brocken they they dont realy forgive your personal use behavior and they dont care. (And i recently brock the batery on my bmw by dont recarcing it over the winter so it got

    Short
    Not using it is bad
    And over using it (so it gets stressed and hot) is bad.
    obtimal usage between EST. 15-80 procent


    Not possible with the same batery ahat is basycaly yor leading crtical
    (and moust expensicve,recource itensive andenviormet damaging) power souce.
    On an ICE your leading critical Power source is your Engine.


    I did say how it is and you made it Black and White. #drawer thinking



    Well this technology in the video erases the man point with that the E-cars gets advertised.
    and Make you current car the leading enviormental technic wich would further found those co2 capturing power plants.

    well maby he put to much money in it and regrets it now nowbadi know
    A lot of that we do is initiated by outher
    is it realy good our realy wrong do we see if we have done it by our selves.

    (or it gets trown to africa on an toxic batery garbage jard so the fewesd of us can see it by person)

    I need to stop now it is late.


    i think i need to put my allerts out.[/QUOTE]


    very well said. it was nice reading it
     
  9. veyasan.ragulan

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    Old or New? Depends on how old "old" is. I prefer to think 25+ years for a car is old. With that in mind, let me answer the question.

    I find myself enjoying newer cars like the SBR or Sunburst. I often cruise in the SBR and race in the Sunburst. I also like old cars like the old Pessima and the I series. I find myself sightlapping and cruising in an I series and racing in the Pessima. So overall a mix for me.
     
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  10. MrAnnoyingDude

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    True, but water cooling is getting really effective at this point for performance uses, and there are high-performance cooling solutions in racing.


    Showing that limited speed is not a new thing.

    Sure it does impact the experience, but so do many things, from the tires to the radio.

    The sound of a gasoline engine is not the only feeling out there.

    This is one of the many problems with the German government, not one with electric cars.

    I played such games.

    And it is far easier to move the batteries around than it is to move the engine.

    It depends on the battery. What they put in a $100k luxury car is not the same as they put in a $100 tablet.

    You mean CO2 emissions?

    Oil extraction and delivery also generates them, and power grids are moving towards renewables.
     
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  11. ManfredE3

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    What even happened to this thread?
     
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  12. veyasan.ragulan

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    It all went wrong at mention of the words "New vs Old". Threads that start off like this frequently derrange into off topic rants/debates, even if the OP didn't want that to happen.
     
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  13. zestyfolfdude

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    A bunch of (rare) overly political European rednecks who don’t care about the environment whatsoever are ranting about how they wish coal power was back or something.


    Fact is, EVs *can* be fun, and are better for the environment. You can call me a “greenie” All you’d like (aka someone who actually cares about the future of this rock) But I’m firm in my beliefe that we need to clean up, much to the dismay of quite a few people in this thread.
    Remind me how that mindset is going in a few years when life is a polluted mess for everyone.
     
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  14. 98crownvic

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    Every single thread that myself and @tobias95ng are in spirals into a poorly-structured debate about EVs.
     
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  15. tobias95ng

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    zestyfolfdude You are so wrong

    I care about my environment
    because of this this and the love to my car im very angered about EVs

    if i compare EVs with ICEs i come to the conclution that the ICE is in big advantage

    (But only if you use the right Synetic / 3gen Bio fuels this is the biggest factor i speak about synthetic fuels with Negative Co2 value so we are able to Actively remove Co2 from the air and invert the process !!! )

    we copy nature and create a counter weight for our co2 polution and refuling the oil gusher were we had grabbed it an ban co2 beyond earth again ICE would finace this and EVs not.
    this is way better than just barely slowing polution down isnt it ?
    (were even that barely slowing is still debatable because of the nature destruktion trough mining)

    watch this ->
    maybe this explains it better what i mean without writing an extended long comment

    where we really need to go and far away fom the overproduction of the industry and follicle resources waste were Evs do the same they need a lot of foccile recources that
    are very hard to mine in big/efficient scale and hard or aren't recyclable as well (Speaking of Rare earth s).

    About the poor structure i realy dont want to spend even more time on this complex term but still i grab so many key points as possible.
    It's so exhausting to write and correct the text i write down fast again on my phone
    And for me it is enough that everybody else at least understand the idea in its basic. (even i must admit that i often miss the right button on my phone what which mostly created the chaos)


    To the Off topic claim:


    old vs new is basicaly EV vs ICE
    (even when the EVs are in fact older than ICE cars...)
     
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  16. Flippi 284

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    Cars are actually very low on the list of polluters. Factories, power plants, cows, ect are what you want to look at if you’re talking pollution. Electric cars won’t need to replace all gas cars if people actually start looking at the real causes of pollution and not some small speck.
    But anyways I prefer to drive older cars in beam as the new ones seem to be a bit more fragile and brittle, especially things like suspension components.
     
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  17. combatwombat96

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    at least some one recognises the real problem, thank you
     
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  18. default0.0player

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    Tesla Motor S, a luxury car, which uses laptop battery instead of power tool(high-drain)battery, that won't last very long with performance driving. Unless you drive it like driving a Prius.

    ICE car can output rated power at 1% fuel if you floor it, which electric one cannot.
     
  19. JDMguy05

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    I don't favor one over the other. I just don't like it when some people get mad (old and new fans alike) get mad at others for not liking the same thing they like. You can't call yourself a car guy if you don't at least respect all cars, whether they be Muscle, JDM, European, Old, Modern.
     
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  20. Martin.S

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    Modern cars but i love Audi So i love Old Audi 50 and Audi 100 CC
     
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