PC Upgrading

Smaller components != more performance.
They will be more energy efficient, not more powerful. This will allow more powerful laptop GPUs since those are limited only by their TDP. On desktop there's no power limit so the benefit from a smaller manufacturing process is minimal.

An example: Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs were 32nm. Skylake is 14. Performance is ~40% better on Skylake and it's been 4 generations. Laptop CPUs however are much better because 14nm allows for a better CPU with the same TDP.

 

That is why I am waiting to see what happens before I purchase a new GPU I won't have money until the summer for that anyway

 

damn close. ita not going to be a 40

Believe my friend. Believe.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-r9-fury-x2-might-boast-12-tflops-compute-performance/105442.html

 

compute performance. You're overlooking a distinction there. That and the article quotes an improvement to 12TFlops from: 11.5. Totally 90%.

 

Double the compute and triple the memory bandwidth. Go ahead and buy that 980 on second thought. It's not like Nvidia and amd are in an arms race or anything.

 

since when was 12 double 11.5.

that and compute performance is not graphics performance

 

I'm not likely gonna bother with the 900 series. . I'd rather wait to get more punch for less power consumption no matter how long i wait and how small the improvent may be.

 

The 295x2 is a dual gpu card. It is over 90 percent

 

as is the fury x2.

 

Your both going to sit here and honestly tell me the new cards won't be twice as fast? Really?
http://wccftech.com/amd-1416nm-arctic-islands-launching-summer-2016/

 

Not in pure graphical performance in computing only in one or two select tasks it's a marketing ploy basically to get pc users hyped if it's what I think you are talking about

 

If it has twice the shaders it will be twice as fast. You don't think they will squeeze every bit they can? You are not getting flagship cards that use 150 or 120 watts that have 980 performance. It's going to be 250 watts minimum and they will push double the pixels.

 

I said no matter how small the improvement... I'm not expectin post supercomputer performance here...

Go ahead jump to conclusions what do I care

 

I'm just saying historically speaking, twice the performance per watt means twice the performance on flagship desktop units. For the past 5 years it's been 10 percent here 10 percent there. I think this is the real deal.

 

Nah, I think they'll gain about 50% in performance and draw only 75% of the power, which if you're using a mobile variant really means twice the performance. If you have a desktop card, it's going to be exactly what I just said.
Also, could be that they're going to be quite a bit more expensive.

 

ill take that bet. Moores law went off the rails in 2011, they know its time to catch up. i bet 2x performance or your money back.

 

$10. Somewhen, Moores law would have to go off the rails anyway, because somewhen it's just not possible to go much better anymore. Wait, wasn't Moores law about performance for power input anyway? With CPUs, we're still good to go for the next few years though.

 

it was actually the number of transistors on an integrated circuit but that's just a detail. the 7970 came out 5 years ago an the hottest card today is around twice as fast. its unacceptable. they will squeeze every last drop out of this generation because they have no choice. we got stuck with 28nm for way too long. and yeah moores law is destined to end but i think its going to dramatically accelerate, not trail off.

 

Isn't this thread slightly trailing off from its intended purpose..
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My cpu is not so great right now... my whole system nearly crashed last night, I thought my 7 year old hdd quit.. nope I was in a cpu loop due to a ram short curciting after simply plugging the computer in a different place and not changing anything else. I had to reseat the ram and my bios failed so I had to flash with cmos, than my intel HD graphics exploded and displays out of range or with hundreds of artifact in horizontal red lines across my bios screen.

Now in the os my system often crashes beam and I even had it BlueScreen when testing the cpu after hitting okay on prime95
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Well I've regained stability.
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However I doubt my CPU's Intel HD Graphics will work again.

 

wow, why dont you just get a replacement CPU, if you do upgrade then an I7 is worthless over an I5, just overclock the I5 a lot, windows will do the 'hyper threading'