Performance issues with AMD GPUs

Hello, where do i found the safed graphs? Here the Screenshots. I have also a video of gameplay with the graph on. Cause i have issues with the image and fps drops to 20. No mods and in safe mode to. My Sysytem: AMD 7800XT, Ryzen 9 7900X3D, 32GB DDR5-6000m, Temperatures are always at ca. 60°C, Windows 11.

 

If you're asking how to open the advanced FPS graph, it's CTRL + Shift + F

 

No the graph is already an the pics. I search the safed graph files for the support. I want to send it with mail. Support ID 171870

 

Your combo with the CPU and upgraded GPU is creating an 18.4% CPU Bottleneck on 1080p, that part of your problem. I would either overclock the CPU to match performance of the CPU, or upgrade to an I5-13000 series or an I7-12000 series CPU, If you want to do research, here is the website you need.
https://pc-builds.com/

 

Ok ill say this, IDK if the graph is an accurate unit to measure with cause I know this game is CPU intensive, but with a Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 570 and Ryzen 5 5500 at 1080p I have a 16.7% GPU bottleneck. With the graph though, its saying I have a CPU and Game engine bottleneck. Other times when I moved it to far on the left or right of the game and had a solid background, it said I had a GPU bottleneck. On top of that, it was dropping performance from an average of 55~60 FPS, to ~45 FPS on west coast. I'll also say this, for some reason, dropping the picture quality to 900p or 720p doesn't have a change in fps. I think if y'all want to chase after the problem, you need to use a benchmark program like MSI or something. I cant get good screenshots cause it limits FPS when using sniping tool.

 

Bottleneck calculators are bullshit.

 

Today I have switched from a 2080ti to a RX7900GRE and was suprised to find a big performance loss.
The only thing i can tell right now is that on Italy / Fastello I used to have aroud 110-120FPS with the 2080ti and now I am down to 80-90 with the new card.

 

Yes and no,
Most of the time, I'd use it with information I can find elsewhere with the hardware combination

 

Did you completely DDU your drivers and freshly install AMD ones?

 

Has anyone seen this issue?: In DirectX 11 mode, Adrenalin apparently is forcing AFMF on, even when I told Adrenalin to keep AFMF off! I don't know if any Adrenalin version later than 24.1.1 will solve this or not.

I'm hesitant to upgrade Adrenalin, until at least 24.6.1 comes out.

It shows the expected behavior in Vulkan mode. For Vulkan, I only have the "crash-on-close" issue and other than that, it's OK.

 

performance is still abysmal on amd gpus when i first built my pc on west coast i was a solid 60 fps maxed graphics.
actualy i had a solid 60fps on every map even the most intesnse modded ones such as that old wasteland map. Now after all the updates and all the optimization thats supposedly been done my fps is still terrible. My rx570x which is atleast 3 times as powerful as my old gtx 960 performes just as well as my old 960 i7 alienware alpha did. My fps drops as low as 28 fps on west coast which is a joke as im above the hardware requirements of the game. I might have come off mad im not mad i just really hope theres something in the works to fix this as its getting annoying as its been a few years now the games hard to play with all my fps issues. After getting my old alienware up and running again i booted the game on it and found all the laggy ui issues and what not are caused by my amd gpu.

It seems shadows are the biggest hit i can mess with every other setting turn them down and maybe gain 5 fps but as soon as i turn off shadows it shoots up to 80 fps.
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i mean everythings set to low and i still cant crack 60. This same view on high drops me to 38 which is the same fps i got on a alienware alpha in like 2020. In fact after rebooting it and testing my old pc is acutally pretty close in performance which should not be happening as my gpu and cpu is way more powerful and i have way more ram now. I can run 60fps no problem on every other game. Even games that are way mor graphically taxing than this.

 

Is that with DirectX or Vulkan?

 

With the 0.32.4 update, the issue with AFMF being forced on in DirectX 11 mode, went away, even when I still have Adrenalin 24.1.1. I'm still waiting for at least 24.7.1.

 

I had a similar experience upgrading from a 1660TI to a 6900XT about 2 years ago
I expected my performance to be significantly better at the same settings but it was only marginally better
I can see my friend with a worse CPU than me and a 1070 running higher FPS than i do in some maps like ECUSA or WCUSA despite me having a GPU that should be performing at a 3080 level which it does in other games
Now the problem is slightly better than it used to be but its still not great and i can see my GPU utilization is barely above 50% when im having FPS issues and not a single core is overloaded on my CPU

 

Again, with Vulkan or DX11? Best compared at medium graphics preset for both.

 

So I have a very bad potato PC, it has a Radeon R7 350X, AMD A8 6500u, 24GB 1600MHz DDR3. I get 20ish fps on west coast with lowest settings. I was looking at my performance graphs recently, and expecting a processor bottleneck, but no. Neither CPU nor GPU was fully utilized. I didn't look very closely at the percentages, but I think my CPU was at about 60% and GPU was about 40-80% at different times. (my RAM usage is always very low cause I have more than enough) So I was reading this thread and wondering what I could do to fix it. I wasn't playing BeamNG when this issue first came along, I've only played since 0.33, so I wasn't even aware this was an issue. Some say use Vulkan, which I have had no success with since my hardware is so old. Some say to set the min and max clock speeds to nearly the same MHz, which I'll try. Also turning off VSync, which is a setting I havent seen but will try to find. The 0.27/0.28 updates seemingly fixed a lot of the issues, but they have apparently been resurfacing a bit lately. So other than all of that, is there anything I can do to increase my performance? Overclocking maybe? There was also that thing about disabling SAM, which I did not read very closely, but I'll look into it. So thanks for finding some possible answers folks! I'm hoping to get a 1080 soon so hopefully this won't be an issue any longer.

and yes I spent a whole hour reading all 12 pages of this thread haha

 

The CPU isn't going to just MAX it's self because that's not actually how it really works. But the CPU hits a wall where at some point it just can't output more frames in a given scene within the game engine, not sure where BeamNG actually gets stuck in particular as it's not like any other game and the game/render engine is also very clunky in it's own right.

LOD, Shadows and Reflections are nasty for CPU overhead in BeamNG. I hate to say it but without more data/information it's hard to really pinpoint what will or will not provide better performance to the system in question.

It's entirely possible that any AMD CPU from that Era (Some of their weakest entries in the market) is just not going to provide the type of IPC performance a game like BeamNG needs to run efficiently. Which would play a huge part in the lack luster GPU usage on display.

Essentially what I'm saying is that CPU is liable to significantly bottleneck anything you throw at it in BeamNG, unable to provide satisfactory performance.

 

I see what you're saying. I discovered today that I can run it on Low rather than Lowest without a big framerate drop, so I guess I'll just stick with that until I can get a Socket AM4 PC rather than this sucky Socket FM2.

 

Those pre Ryzen AMD Chips never played well with Beamng. Even 10 years ago. They were significantly slower than Intels offerings back then especially for gaming. Its a 12 year cpu with an architecture which never faired well with the game. One of the reasons is the for even back then really mediocre single thread performance. While Beamng has multithreading most of the gamelogic is handled by the mainthread. Which means your maximum performance is mandated by the singlethread performance of the cpu. This is also why the cpu isnt utilized fully. The CPU is bottlenecking. So hard it cant even saturate the rest of the cores efficiently for multithreading. Thats why its sitting at 60% utilisation. One thread is going full tilt while the rest are chilling because they cant get enough information so to speak.

I was a low tech gamer for quite a while and to be frank there isnt much what you can do with that setup. You probably could squeeze out an extra 5-15% of performance with a lot of effort. But even an 25%(unrealistic) uplift isnt going to do much if were talking about a 20fps baseline.

Dont buy a 1080 with the expectation to get better performance in beamng in combination with that cpu. Dont get me wrong, the 1080 will be a huge upgrade to the 350X. In a lot of less cpu demanding(and older) games you will be able to crank the graphics settings to the max. But in Beamng specifically you are held back by that 12 year old cpu.

/edit: look at that, my account is exactly 10 years old today. lmao

 

Yeah I wasn't planning on keeping this CPU. Omg no. I was planning on a whole new motherboard (A520M) with a Ryzen 5 3600.