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RWD vs FWD

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ADHDRacer, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. lukerules117

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    Unless its just acres of paved and flat land with nothing on it(like a giant parking lot but without anything in it at all and more level than one and even then it seems somewhat dangerous) then it still seems too risky IMO and in that case it seems like it would be boring to drive on as well as dangerous, so again it just seems like something boring, dangerous and extremely expensive so I just dont really see the point.
     
  2. CarCrusher193

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    he he is200 i got one of them
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    where i live AWD is the best because there are not big roads in this part of Wales but RWD ALL DA WAY
     
  3. Slammington

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    In luxury cars I believe FWD should be used, as it allows for more interior space (no bulky driveshafts or transmission tunnels), and easier handling for a more relaxed experience.

    For reference, here are some of the most comfortable cars ever built (I didn't post a DS or an SM because those are already too obvious :p)





     
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    Well not in a world where the average customer in the market for this kind of vehicles kinda gives more importance to silly sporty pretentions than any "relaxed experience"...

    Similarly to Citroën, Lancia also has a long tradition of FWD (sort-of) luxury sedans, whose pinnacle was the unloved but amazingly comfortable Thesis (2001), equipped with a brilliant "Skyhook" active suspension system:



    Together with Citroën, Lancia was a pioneer of the application of FWD to large vehicles, their first FWD proposal in the segment of luxury sedans being the 1960 Flavia:



    Their flagship models even were almost as quirky as Citroëns in the 70's, when the fastback bodystyle and silly dashboards were all the rage:



    Then... something went REALLY wrong... and now Lancia is a shadow of their former self. :(
     
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  5. CaptanW

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    i want RWD but why not add em all? AWD too?
     
  6. Slammington

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    The thing is, nobody wants a pure comfy car anymore. Most new car buyers are badge whores who wouldn't even drive their cars if they couldn't show them off to others. We live in a world where buzzwords take priority over facts.
     
  7. CarCrusher193

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    where i live AWD is the best because there are not big roads
    i am not, if people call my car bad i just ask them to race they soon back down
     
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  8. Spaceballs the Username

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    I'm being a bit pedantic here, but FWD/RWD does not give you any difference in traction, slippery conditions or not. AWD will give you more traction in acceleration, but not turning or braking. What you mean by traction is actually how the car handles at its limit. FWD cars tend to understeer under throttle, while RWD cars tend to oversteer under throttle. Understeer is perceived as better by most average people because it's easier to control and less scary.
     
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  9. Cwazywazy

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    Oversteer is awesome when you expect it and do it on purpose. Understeer is plain boring. Most FWD/AWD cars are designed to just understeer at their limit, and this is perfectly reasonable. Understeer is safer, but boringer.
     
  10. CarCrusher193

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    its not safer when i am driving (call me a bad driver) but i find it easier to counter over-steer than under understeer
     
  11. lukerules117

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    Well what other reason would you even want a new car for other than showing off? Pretty much the only things that matter in a car for real world application are price, fuel efficiency, size, and prestige(which is heavily related to price). Unless its a high end car thats worth showing off you might as well just get a cheap old used car anything in between and you just look like an idiot.
    Edit: forgot to add comfort to the list of things that matter
     
  12. ADHDRacer

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    It's a thing called racing, especially Dirt racing. Sport Compacts FTW! (For those who don't know, sport compacts are literally stock, I4, FWD cars, with no modifications/ enhancements/ turbos/ VVT/ Sport engines. The only mods are safety, like racing seats, a roll cage, fireproof suit, head brace, etc).
     
  13. lukerules117

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    Once again it still seems dangerous, pointless, extremely expensive, and made irrelevant by video games. why thousands on a car and then thousands more on safety equipment and I dont even know how much it would cost to drive on a normal track and then you'd have to spend all day in the sun with no air conditioning, when instead you can just spend a few hundred dollars on a racing wheel and some racing games and do more, for less money, with less risks and sit in a nice comfortable chair in the shade from the comfort of an air conditioned house?
     
  14. ADHDRacer

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    Have you ever even been in a fast car? Because from what you're saying, I don't think you have. Sure, a racing wheel and a racing game is nice, but nothing beats driving a real car. Also, racing is dangerous, but then again, so is football. And it isn't pointless, racing is for the fun of it. It's fun to be in a fast car. driving fast. And no risks almost always equals less fun.
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    Also, driving on a normal track only costs as much as you need for parts, tires, etc. There is usually a small entry fee, but nobody said racing is cheap. It's a hobby.
     
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  15. Cwazywazy

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    Come back when a racing game can provide full immersion with the feeling of being in a car, being able to feel the road, what the car is doing, the g-forces, the excitement, etc.

    Also most cars have AC.
     
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  16. Slammington

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    Newer cars have newer technology that you won't find in older cars, so that makes them more desirable to some.
     
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  17. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Camber and toe alignments on RWD cars are also set to tend into understeer in modern RWD cars too, simply because yeah safer.
    Done both, game doesnt give a fraction of the feeling.
    It does actually. Under acceleration at any rate. FWD cars shift weight bias rearwards on takeoff which reduces the available front grip, this is amplified in wet weather and reduces traction on acceleration versus a RWD car.
     
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  18. lukerules117

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    No, I haven't and I have no desire to ever be in one, I often find normal road speeds to be a bit too fast(and I live in an area with already slow speed limits) I've been offroading at relatively high speeds plenty of times and never enjoyed it(possibly because I wasnt the one driving but I'd be afraid to drive much faster than idling speed). And yes its a hobby buts its probably also one of the most and dangerous expensive hobbies there is, for the price of tires alone you could get a cheap racing setup and some old racing sims and you'd get a lot more use out of that with less risks than you would actually racing. You dont get as much of the feeling but its much safer and something you can do more often, that alone makes it much more appealing even if you dont consider the costs.
     
  19. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Doesnt make it remotely more appealing to me. I want the feel, the smell, the raw adrenaline rush. Videogames cant give that,
     
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  20. lukerules117

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    Meh, video games are more than exciting enough for me(and the closest I'll ever be able to afford...) although most of the time they just end up making me depressed and reminding me of how unskilled I am at everything I do, especially racing games.
     
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