Tire Traction

Here is what I think is wrong with the tire traction:

It's too unresponsive. My conclusion is made this way:

LFS has awesome tire physics in my opinion when driven with wheel, BeamNG is undecided at this note because I have yet to test it with wheel and FFB.
LFS with keyboard-steering and similar steering rates as BeamNG is SUPER sensitive to spinning out. Even the normal XRG car. It doesn't take much for the car to lose control and end up in a wall (even when driving straight, once you try to correct at all you lose all control).

So this leads me to believe that the problem is within the shape of the traction curve and its response. The maximum forces seems good. What could be done is to make a traction curve tester within beamNG and reference that to a real traction curve and most of the "unrealistic feel" causes should reveal themselfes right there.

 

V1
Increased wheel nodes: from 24 to 70 = much smoother sliding/friction, and no more wobbly wheel when burnout...with rear wheel drive cars, just try to burnout with bolide GTR original wheel model
This has allowed to get higher G-force in the curves from 0.95G to 1.5G with Covet race, on Industrial
Added different toe to Bolide, Front: -2% Rear: -15%/+2%
It was not much time to work on this mod....please test this out and answer how you like and what can I change to get better wheel mod!
V2
1. New groundmodel for better and more realistic friction.
2. Added soft steering, test out, and compare. Please select every time the soft steering when you change to other vehicle...
3. New cameras GoPro style on Gavril Grand Marshal and Ibishu Covet.
More later...
Some video when I get time to it..
Test and compare!!!
Have Fun!
Wheel-Handling-improvement!!

 

You chose wrong factors to compare. The problem is that pretty much none of the roads on the maps included are of a race track quality you've experienced in real life, these are worst grade, worn out tarmacs that haven't been repaired for decades. Potholes, cracks, badly made patches and sand scattered around everywhere galore. And how often do you ride your real car at frantic BeamNG.drive speeds on such crappy roads like these? Let me answer that for you: never.

 

he mentions in his thread that he did adjust the node mass. when i was driving with an earlier version of the mod, i checked the weights myself because the wheels felt heavy and more unresponsive to direction changes - but the weights given by the debug menu looked very reasonable. maybe there is another factor that would make the car 'feel' heavier simply by having additional nodes?

 

It happens with the default cars also.

You can replicate this for example with Civetta by removing the body and placing the camera above the car. Use a map with grid, drive straight about 50-80 km/h and start making small turns to right and left. It's like the car is turning around a vertical axel placed on middle of the front axel (marked red in the picture below).


(imported from here)

I don't know if it's the driving model or is it just that rear tires loose their traction with even a tinyest amount of lateral force affecting them.

 

The chase camera is fixed to the center of the car, so it looks like the car turns around that point. Try the same in free cam.

 

That's why I tested it on a grid so the fixed camera doesn't matter.

 

1) I used a camera angle straight above the car
2) I didn't use a keyboard