Update Speculation thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.

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  1. Slugfest

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    True, but the Piccolina (ahem, not a 500, ahem) is a little late to the game, starting in '57, with the 2cv starting in '48, Beetle in '38, Model A in '27, and Model T in '08 (that's 1908 :) )
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    Like real life doesn't? ;)
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    Yeah, I don't think anywhere in North America gets those :(

    Edit: it appears that if you have 921,000 Mexican dollars, you can afford a V-series, so Mexico has them, my bad.
     
  2. skodakenner

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    There is one VW Van you get but we dont get its the Routan? I think its called that at least. Also the BMW and Merc is really bad for the high bmw and merc standards
     
  3. urbanestdog45

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    I think the V class is sold (or at least was sold) here in NA as the Metris. The B class is discontinued here, and the 2 Series Active tourer doesn't appear to exist in Canada at least. We do get the Gran coupe tho.

    The Routan was based on the Dodge Grand Caravan/Chrysler Town & Country/Lancia Voyager chassis and was discontinued in 2014.
     
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  4. ManfredE3

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    While technically the Beetle was a pre-war design, civilian Beetle production was extremely limited until the late 1940's (for obvious reasons). The effective model year of the Beetle isn't that far from the Piccolina and 2CV. The Piccolina is mechanically a Beetle anyway, just with some Fiat 600 inspiration. Then there's the official description of Autobello as "founded by Vincenzo Bello in 1948 to build affordable family cars after the second world war".

    Overall I'd say it fills the mid twentieth century people's car niche very well; something like a 2CV or Beetle would be redundant. Pre-war is another matter though.
     
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  5. Agent_Y

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    It might be made of alluminum rather than steel and that's why it fractures. The Pigeon is (mostly) made of plastic and it can do that as well.
     
  6. Toron Beldevar

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    Technically I'm a bit late getting to 50 votes for an update, but since two people chose "other" and didn't specify in a way I could see what other car they thought should have been considered, those votes won't count, so here's a 50 vote update on the poll.

    I guess now is probably a good time as any to mention that I was not aware that the Bolide remaster could take longer than initially proposed to be ready in time for this autumn's major update. Thanks to those who have been clarifying it in these recent posts, that yes, the Bolide will definitely be remastered, just maybe not this time. Regardless of this apparently lasting information, though, the Bolide is well in the lead - although it falls short of a supermajority, it runs far along, by 2:1 over the second place contestant, the happy little Pessima, which got a few more votes than I was expecting. (No, I have not submitted a vote for it or for any of the other cars, as I think that would not be very fair, but I'm still looking forward to a Pessima update.) I figured the even older Moonhawk, which sits dead in the middle just behind the Pessima's boot, would overtake the 0.4.x-era midsize car fairly well, and as for the others, well for now, they're probably fine the way they are and can wait a little longer for a refresh, compared to some of the other cars.

    I did see a few mentions for the ETK 800, which is under-utilized and unusually short-run for a German estate, and the Ibishu Miramar which also has glaring issues such as lacking international variation and a proper set of gauge clusters. Really, any pre-0.6.x car that hasn't already been remastered probably needs to be. The one exception was the Bruckell LeGran, the most recently introduced of the remastered vehicles, which hitched along its caravan with update 0.8. I will agree that this was one of the least-interesting cars in the game prior to 0.22, and while I haven't driven it even since that update, mostly due to a perceived lack of time on my part, I really think that car deserved its overhaul and increased customization just about as much as the Wendover deserved taking the field with it after a long sit-out on the sidelines.

    Anyway, since the Bolide is technically disqualified from the poll due to both being confirmed to receive a remaster as well as its uncertainty to be released in that state in time for the update (not that you can't still vote for it if you have the nerve), it pretty much comes down to any of the other cars, which means... *stifles a grin but fails* :D the 1996 Ibishu Pessima is currently the car that we think deserves the remastered vehicle slot in update 0.24. Of course, it's fine if it turns out not to be the Pessima, and that the developers have the final say in which vehicle is most practical and possible for a remaster within the three or four months following update 0.23. Please, though, still be the Pessima, I have faith in you Gabe, Mitch, Stoat, Diamondback, Alex, NinetyNine and all the rest.
     
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  7. Leroux83

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    If the 1996 Pessima recieves more parts, I'll definitely always use it ! Just listen to the sound of that V6 ! (Without exhaust)
    A Sunburst revamp would be also cool ! ;)
     
  8. Blub

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    Yeah, the 96 Pessima needs a revamp. That would be cool :)
     
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  9. Kemro

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    Well I'm not making documentation, I'm just putting in perspective some data I found about vehicles. It's not a whole 40 pages report.
     
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    But what could they add to the 96 Pessima? The cars wich they are based on are ones like the Xedos 6 and they dont have much in the way of sporty models and diffrent bodystyles maybe a coupe version of it at the most?
     
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    The most logical revamp with the 96 pessima would be to combine it with the 200bx revamp and maybe some covet stuff aswell.
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  12. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    I understand, it's just that it kind of looked like the Bolide was getting hung out to dry.
     
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    I'd be surprised if it doesn't get more or less the same treatment the LeGran got. Optional AWD, some performance trims of questionable realism that are fun nonetheless (note the hillclimb aero kit it already has), and one body style (wagon or liftback/hatchback like the contemporary Mazda 626 had).

    We could see AWS (there's a few platforms that could see this, but only the older Pessima has it)

    We could also see a diesel (contempoarary Corolla and Camry had diesel options and the 626 had a Comprex Diesel). Diesel engines are another thing often omitted in the vehicle roster
     
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  14. robert357

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    Modified cars for racing like touring car or Australian production and improved production car exist. Not to mention that it doesn't have banger/derby variant and taxi (which fits perfectly for a cheap car). Not to mention to just overall improving for more details and finish touches.
     
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    A Supertouring superbuild would be a possibility too
     
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  16. urbanestdog45

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    I feel like the Covet is more closely related to the 1st gen Pessima than the second gen Pessima. I think the Covet could get a different front end bc rn, it looks a bit like a Grand Marshall or something else that is quite non-Japanese and possibly beyond the era the Covet's main body shape should be based off of.
     
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  17. Agent_Y

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    The Covet looks like if the 80s Honda Civic was American lol
     
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  18. redrobin

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    Honestly, I prefer it be delayed until ready than rushed and flawed. The Bolide deserves to have the time taken on it.

    Delay until ready, guys. You aren't CDPR
     
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  19. Slugfest

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    Am I alone in thinking it'd be better to see some more common cars rather than the Bolide? It's practically impossible to drive via keyboard anyway, has very little in the way of parts or customization, and there are still so many mainstream segments missing from the game, so while I'd enjoy a Bolide revamp, I feel like it's not the best thing right now.
     
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  20. Blue Bird Gaming

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    I think the Covet looks fine as is. Keep in mind that it is not supposed to be a direct Civic clone, it just takes heavy inspiration from the Civic of that time period. With that being said, I do think the Covet can do with a sedan variant, since the front and most of the body would stay the same and the trunk would just be stretched back.

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    Also if the devs do go down that route, they can easily make coupe and four-door hatch bodies as well.
     
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