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Update Speculation thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. Fox Next Door

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    First: Ah, that makes more sense now. I'm hoping for a Sunburst remaster sometime this year tho. One of my fav cars haha

    Second: Best part is, if theres parts of the car that were on it previously they will most likely keep it! Customization is the best part, along with that sense of reality when driving with a sim setup.
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    ETA: The modern Civetta looks neat as heck tho. I'm excited for that cars release :D
     
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  2. McBeamer94

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    Dunno 'bout this year, but the Sunburst is certainly gonna be remastered sometime in the future, no doubt about that. :cool:;)
    I hope it gets the Flat-4s (2.0 and 2.5) instead of the 2.0 Inline-4 for its versions above the 1.8 Base with the optional CVT (the 1.8 Inline-4 engine with the optional CVT may remain for making for the 1.8 Base version, which is cheap, simple and oriented to basic A-to-B transportation).
    Hirochi has to make Flat-4s its brand trademark, it needs to stand out more and have its own identity amongst those of the BeamNG brands. :cool:

    I agree, for many of us, a part of the BeamNG experience is customizing the vehicles to our liking! For example, I like tuning the Vivace S 410Q Arsenic DCT to Stage 2 (Stage 3 Block + Stage 2 Turbocharger + X410 Stage 2 ECU + Speed Limiter Delete + Tuned Exhaust = ~580hp), getting catapulted to 100km/h in ~3sec and hammering down the WCUSA expressway at ~300km/h right before I don't manage to brake early enough for not crashing in the tunnels at the end! :cool:;)

    Yeah, the new supercar looks ace!! It most likely will be a Civetta, which makes the most sense after all, since Civetta only has the Bolide now and, also, a lineage continuity has to be created between the Bolide and the new supercar! ;)
     
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  3. Fox Next Door

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    The teaser has Civetta wrote on the rear, right below the wing, that's why I said Civetta :D

    Also, I am hoping for a couple V6s, Flat 4s, and possibly even a Flat 6 lol

    I'm currently working on my own customization experience in terms of a mod! I'm putting the V8 from the Bastion into the D-Series as kind of a JBeam learning project too. I absolutely love the amount of detail that is put into this game, not only into the vehicles, but also into the map design and building details as well. I'm also working on a lore friendly pickup from Bruckell too, except I had to put it on hold due to personal reasons.

    "Hirochi has to make Flat-4s its brand trademark, it needs to stand out more and have its own identity amongst those of the BeamNG brands"
    I 100% agree. Hirochi, atleast to me, is that manufacturer that takes risks with reward and finds success doing so. The SBR is the best example.
    I honestly want to see some Flat 6 engines as well from Hirochi, but those might be too powerful haha

    "I like tuning the Vivace S 410Q Arsenic DCT to Stage 2 (Stage 3 Block + Stage 2 Turbocharger + X410 Stage 2 ECU + Speed Limiter Delete + Tuned Exhaust = ~580hp"
    My current tuning setup is a D-Series. The ability to tow anything at a moments notice and sitting higher up than the other vehicles is fun, even IRL!
    It's a 5.5l V8 Stage 2 with a stage 1 supercharger, race ECU tuned to 6000rpm to provide the perfect balance between low end torque and high end horsepower, provided the radiator is sufficient enough to keep the engine at a safe temperature. It's an extended cab short bed on a heavy duty frame, locking front hubs, limited slip differential sitting on 18x10 Clockwise 533s. (I might have given the rims a bit of a mod myself in terms of tires). It accelerates to 100km/h in approx 3.7 seconds from a dead stop, it's 1/4 mile time suffers due to the weight of the truck, however it's able to nail the sub 12 second mark with a 4 speed transmission.
    I have way too much fun with my vehicles and the extent to the modifications. I'm currently also tuning a Bolide to hit 350MPh ~560km/h. Being native to using Kilometers, it seems a lot more unrealistic, but I have had it to 290ish MPh, which doesn't seem all that unrealistic to me, except it's all done without modifying the car using external resources. AKA no modded engines or tires, just straight vanilla Bolide :D
     
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  4. McBeamer94

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    Hehe, it does say Civetta but it's a bit undefined at the same time, so it has the benefit of the doubt. We'll see! :p

    Flat-6s (and a Boxer Diesel) can help Hirochi elevate its status and broaden its appeal but they're not that suitable for the Sunburst, since it's a bit small and, well, basic. I could definitely see these engines in a Midsize Hirochi Sedan/Wagon and an SUV that's a bit more capable off-road than the typical family hauler of its size. And, why not, see an SBR6 but, on the other hand, the SBR4 is already hella quick/fast with the 2.5 Flat-4 in the SBR4 S2. Maybe the Flat-6 improves the top-end performance of the SBR4 S2, above 320km/h. :cool:
    V6s are out of the question since its clear that Hirochi isn't the type of brand to make V engines. Hirochi is the type of brand which is athletic, sporty and driver-oriented and both models (Sunburst and SBR4) reflect exactly that. Plus, there already is a Japanese brand with Inline-4 engines across its entire lineup: Ibishu!
    I've also made a list of proposed versions for the remastered Sunburst, based on the existing official Flat-4 content!
    • 1.8 Base (1.8 Inline-4, 135hp, FWD, 6spd Manual, optional CVT)
    • 2.0 S (2.0 NA Flat-4, 175hp, FWD, 6spd Manual, optional DCT)
    • 2.5 Sport (2.5 NA Flat-4, 211hp, FWD, optional AWD, 6spd Manual, optional DCT)
    • 2.0 Sport S (2.0 Turbo Flat-4, 300hp, AWD, 6spd Manual, optional DCT)
    • 2.5 Sport RS (2.5 Turbo Flat-4, 350hp, AWD, 6spd Manual, optional DCT)
    Your D-Series is a true beast!! I can imagine how it's gonna look at 300km/h on the WCUSA expressway!! Although I use the 6.9 V8 for such extreme tuning projects, I just can't have enough of this engine! Hehe! :cool::p

    Esesel actually drew a sketch on how a modern Bruckell Pickup truck could look like and he had named it the "Bastion" long before the official Bastion came out! He made a thread for exhibiting his sketches ("esesel's car concepts", IIRC).
    Speaking of the Bastion, the 6.5 V8 (and the 5.7 V8, for that matter) is an extremely capable engine, especially with the Stage-2/Stage-3 Superchargers, so a beastly version of the proposed modern Bruckell Pickup truck (like the RAM TRX) could fill the modern high-performance truck niche!

    The Bolide is a bit of a twitchy vehicle at high speeds which, well, is characteristic of its era. I just love the 320 GTR Group 5 version, it's everything I could possibly imagine about an 80s Italian supercar! My only reservation is that there could also be a street 320 GTR version of this car, with this exact look and the GTT door mirrors (they complete the crazy, Gemballa-style look, in my opinion)! ;)
     
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  5. Fox Next Door

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    I could actually modify the aspects of my Dodge model I did for a 3D modeling course I took over last summer to make the Bruckell Pickup modern edition with the engines from the Bastion, that would be cool. Dodge also has the 3.6 Pentastar V6 in the Ram trucks aswell, so that would be interesting to work with.

    The 6.9l V8 for me is one of those engines that if tuned incorrectly, generates alot of heat, thus rendering my pickup unusable in many situations. the 5.5l is the perfect balance :D

    Your proposed list looks AMAZING btw. It's interesting because I am actually getting a lot of good mod ideas to satisfy needs until the official releases of said engines. It's all down to engine mounts and JBeams :D (I'm definitely converting the SBR4's Flat 4 engines to be able to use them in the Sunburst haha)

    I am definitely going to look into Esesel's drawings. Those sound interesting!

    Sunburst but bigger and wagon. Kind of like the ETK800, but by Hirochi, and not as advanced as the 800, in terms of computers and driver aids.

    I'm used to twitchy vehicles at higher speeds. It's all about how to control them and how well you know the car :) It's similar to real life, in terms of driving. Crashing, not so much. It's better to crash in a game than it is IRL!
    Going from IRL to the game with my sim setup is similar in terms of how the car reacts to improper driving, and road vibrations. That being said, I feel like BeamNG could be used as a tool to allow new drivers to learn how to control a car (given the correct setup) and defensive driving (since the AI is derpy and unpredictable haha).

    The way I learned was unconventional anyways, but I am glad I started out on backroads, in winter, next to a deep ditch. I learned really fast why you shouldn't be scared of the vehicle you're driving. It doesn't end well.
    If you must know, my father taught me everything on a very crappy backroad, where you'd need a 4x4 farm tractor just to get towed out. Our F150 at the time did well, and I learned LOADS of stuff not to do lol, I never once ended up in the ditch, or damaged the truck :)
     
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  6. GearHead1

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    Fitting both I4s and F4s in the same car could prove...problematic.
     
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    Yeah, i think it'd make more sense to keep the sunburst as an i4 but have it have an f4 swap for performance or aftermarket applications.
     
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  8. GearHead1

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    I think just all F4s should do.
     
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  9. McBeamer94

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    It's only the base 1.8 Inline-4 with the CVT, for keeping the clientele with the no-nonsense approach.
    All the other versions can have the Flat-4s.

    Unless you think it's a problem that the 1.8 Inline-4 is transversely mounted while the Flat-4s are longitudinal (which I just got to think of). Then yes, the Inline-4 engines can disappear from the lineup.
     
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  10. GearHead1

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    Precisely.
     
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  11. McBeamer94

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    Yep, just got to think of this! Hahaha! ;)
    So a longitudinal Flat-4 being smaller than 2 liters could take the place of the 1.8 Inline-4 and it could also keep the CVT option of that engine, only longitudinally mounted as well.
     
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    I dunno, i love f4s but i kinda like the fact that it has i4s.
     
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  13. McBeamer94

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    Yeah, the 3.5 V6 could make for a Base version of the said modern Bruckell Pickup!
    I think I have to agree with you, because the 6.9 V8 seems to overheat quite easily when a Stage-3 Supercharger and a Stage-3 Long Block are fitted, even if it has the Ultra High Performance Radiator. :p

    Thank you! ;)
    It's a list of ideas some of us think they can work (including a Dev Team member, he wanted this since 2015 and he wasn't in BeamNG back then) and, as you can see, we're discussing how the Inline-4 could exist in harmony with the Flat-4s (it can't, it just can't be done)! :p
    A Sunburst Wagon could also expand the general appeal of the model! Very nice idea this one! Especially if there's also an off-road version with AWD, black cladding, all-terrain tires and higher ground clearance! ;)

    I have no sim setup as of now, I have to make do with my 10yo laptop, which isn't doing that bad tbh (fingers crossed)! So the twitchiness is amplified by the 'all or nothing' function of the keyboard!
    I'll have to make my own simrig to enjoy driving in BeamNG! ;)
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    Inline-4s are everywhere, it's about time the Flat-4s spread more widely in the game. ;)
     
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    New car looks like a Renault 5, possibly a Charmand vehicle? All I really have to say is, I hope we can get a Moonhawk remaster this update.
     
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    We’ve pretty much confirmed it’s a covet.
     
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    i wish lol
     
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    Right. I just checked it today, haven't been keeping up with any of that stuff
     
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    I'd love for the crappiest Sunburst to get a 5-speed manual like the Impreza. (They still use a 5-speed for the base model!)
     
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    The hirochi sbr4 is the halo car of hirochi, and it utilizes boxer four cylinder turbocharged engines, so it stands to reason that hirochi would be a predominately boxer-based brand. building a halo car on a brand new engine type would be super expensive and inefficient, if hirochi previously made inline engines like in the sunburst, and you wouldn't be able to trickle down the engineering marketing from the sbr4 into pedestrian vehicles.

    Plus, that would make the Sunburst the first front boxer engine car, the first awd based sedan, and the first sedan powered by a flat four in Beamng. We already have a multitude of inline four fwd based awd sedans, especially the 89 pessima, which is mechanically an older model sunburst.

    My vote is cast for Boxer, as a totally unbiased WRX owner who certainly isn't swayed by the fact that the sunburst is an almost-WRX.
     
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