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Update Speculation thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. paulnewman

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    Maybe they are going to make the k-series into an imaginary mercedes sl rival? Then the v8 would make so much more sense.
    For me the proportions of the car are quite screwed at the moment so it requires resizing anyway.
     
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  2. Aquila:)

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    A hot v engine would definitely be cool and suits etk as for example the new Mercedes v8 (as in the amg gt and c63, as well as in the coming Porsche Panamera) is a hot v engine. And as McBeamer already explained very well, the engine behaviour would be much different from a regular turbo engine, giving it its own characteristics ;)
     
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  3. catchow1977

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    the thing in the development media looks weird and almost jetpack like
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    this thing upload_2023-2-28_12-12-51.png
     
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  5. ApolIo

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    ETK's irl counterpart being bmw/mercedes, the v-twin makes sense, and therefore 90% chance it's am etk-k remaster
     
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  6. Lordlichi2006

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    i assume that there will be a luxury version since thats missing from the vanilla cars, alpina stile maybe
     
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  7. SilviaKings

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    it might be a V6 for a rear engined car, since the exhaust is in front
     
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  8. McBeamer94

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    Your way of thinking makes sense because these two cars are already very quick/fast with the existing 3.0 turbocharged I6 (let alone when this engine is equipped with the Stage-1 Turbocharger - speaking of, for extra spice and schnell, the FCV approach of multiple ECUs and turbo parts for each engine would also make sense for the modern ETKs, along with expanding the engine choices of course).
    Under that spectrum, the V8 seems a bit too much, like you said. I mean, the 4.4 V8 engine mod for these two cars (which btw sounds amazing, kinda like a C7 RS6 on the inside and kinda like an AMG V8 on the outside, gotta give my props to the developer ;)) produces 530hp and 697Nm/514lb-ft with the Stock Long Block/Stock Twin Turbochargers/ttSport Exhaust, and it can catapult them to speeds of up to 340kph/211mph, so we kinda have a yardstick of what we can expect from this official new V8.
    On the other hand, though, I can definitely see the new V8 get in these two cars because it's very compact (the 3.0 I6 already fits in with room to spare, so a 4.0 V8, being comprised of two 2.0 I4 blocks, will have no problem) and also because the Germans are famous for sharing their engines across their entire lineups and tailoring them to each model. So it ends up being more of a matter of character than anything else! One thing's for sure though: it needs the AWD system as standard, with the Drift mode included of course! ;)

    Exactly! After all, we've never had a Hot-V engine design in this sim before (well, except for the Gavril 6.0 Turbodiesel V8, but that only has one turbocharger), so it would be very interesting to see how it behaves under a variety of driving scenarios. Plus, it suits the ETK brand as it's packed with technology, so it's a good performance ambassador! ;)
     
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  9. Formula24

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    I’m thinking it’s a Hot Vee Twin Turbo V8 as others have suggested and will go in both modern ETK. In the K series as something similar to like the AMG GTR or Black series and something like a M5 Comp or AMG GT 4 Door coupe. With this being the engine layout DB5CEF26-D524-4E7A-A0A4-061946FAC562.jpeg
     
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  10. McBeamer94

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    Totally agree!
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    Could be but if it's an ETK, then it most certainly will be a V8 since ETK has I6s. Wouldn't make sense.
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    Also, don't forget the way the exhaust headers are arranged. They seem to follow an inverted path towards the front and up, as usual with Hot-V engines!
     

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  11. Jackets64

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    That is almost certainly not correct, those pipes you labeled are very likely going from the intercooler to the intake manifolds, which are mounted on the outside because of the hot-vee setup. The exhaust headers are typically extermely compact and mounted entirely in the vee of hot vee V8s, the BMW N63 below is an example.
     
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  12. toyota.potato

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    looks to be a V engine of some sort judging by the duel downpipes and other pipelines
     
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  13. McBeamer94

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    Yep, now that I can see it, you're right. The intakes must be on the outside for better airflow and heat management. And, provided that the new engine will be a Hot-V V8, it's gonna be even more compact than we speculated thanks to the headers being on the inside. Good thinking! :)
     
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  14. Cutlass

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    How big do we think its displacement could be? I'm thinking maybe more AMG sized something like a 4.0l, 5.5l or 6.3l. As for it being a V10, this could be possible as files for 10 cylinder and 8 cylinder engine parts were found. Speaking of which I wonder if anything new is in the files? :rolleyes:
     
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  15. toyota.potato

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    hopefully a high revving 4-5 litre V8
     
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  16. Jackets64

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    More than likely in the low 4.0s, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a 4.0 to match the 2.0 I4 and the 3.0 I6.
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    I could see it being a 3.9 or a 4.1 if the devs wanted to say that the sizes of their 2.0 and 3.0 engines aren’t a perfect 2000cc and 3000cc respectively.
     
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  17. McBeamer94

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    It's a modern German engine, so I believe it could very well be following the modern "0.5l per cylinder" way of engine design and manufacturing. And judging by its small dimensions, it's more than likely to be a V8. So it can be a 4.0 liter V8 with Hot-V twin turbochargers. Plus, the aforementioned way of engine design and manufacturing is already being implemented in the other modern ETK engines (2.0 turbo gas/diesel I4s, 3.0 turbo gas/diesel I6s), so making a 4.0 V8 out of two 2.0 I4 blocks joined together around the same crankshaft is all the more practical. Not to mention that it also helps our younger folks calculating the displacements more easily! ;)
    Not to mention again that a 6.0 V12 can also be made by joining two 3.0 I6 blocks together and, also, a 1.5 I3 can be made by splitting the 3.0 I6 block in half! And the soundfiles for making a 1.5 Turbodiesel I3, to complement the 1.5 gas I3 version, already exist: the FCV 1.2 I3 sound combined with the clatter of the I4 diesels and some notes of the 3.0 ETK I6 diesel thrown in for taste! ;)
     
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  18. Srockzz

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    oh yeah no thats 120% the V8 that the K-Series should have had from the beginning. We knew that the revamp was on the works and this only further proves that point.
     
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  19. CaptainZoll

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    the ETK 800 is from 2013.
    around that time, mercedes was putting a 6.2L V8 in the C-class.
    I don't think they're "too big to fit."

    they could, after all, easily make a ~4.0L V8 and a ~6.0L V8 quite easily
     
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  20. gtaman788

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    reminds me of a merc engine :)
    I wonder if its a V6 but i dont think so.

    it may be for the ETK seeing we had the teaser of the new parts while back.


    Possible a smaller engine Scintilla?

    Or a all new car in the works?
     

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